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Old 12-23-11, 01:18 PM
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Things I am glad I did not win on Ebay

I occasionally peruse the acutions ending on Ebay looking for bargains, and just to look at some of the insanity. Frequently I will find things like 70's Italian racing frames still listed for $19.99, etc. I frequently put marker bids on interesting things just so Ebay sends me a convienient e-mail telling me that my $21.00 bid did not win and the ending price was $2200.

I almost got bit yesterday. 1990 Bridgestone MB-0 in Calgary listed at $199. I figured it would go for 2-3X that, so I put a marker bid on it at a little over the asking price. I was sweating bullets last night as no one else bid one it and I was looking at at least $250 on top of what would otherwize be a bargain. Looked at the seller with a feedback of 4 and was seriously considering asking Randy to help make sure the thing got packaged correctly. Someone sniped it with 30-seconds left.

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Can't one still retract bids on eBay?

I once got six vintage Japanese bikes on eBay with a super low just-in-case bid for $60. I figured it would go for a few hundred, but it was pickup only, so I won and was pleasantly surprised. And the drive was not too bad either.
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Originally Posted by jeirvine
Can't one still retract bids on eBay?

I once got six vintage Japanese bikes on eBay with a super low just-in-case bid for $60. I figured it would go for a few hundred, but it was pickup only, so I won and was pleasantly surprised. And the drive was not too bad either.
Not really. It's a binding contract. Only under a few circumstance; entered the wrong amount such as entering 250.00 instead of 25.00 but it has to add up. There's a couple of other situations but it's not easy and they'll pull your id if you do it very often.
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that's what your watch list is for
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I don't retract bids, and generally think that it should not be allowed. If I had won, so beit. I don;t need another MTB, but I would be happy to have it.
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I sometimes place impulse, hail mary bids. I end up with a few things I thought were kinda cool but really didn't need or want.
Anyone need a Paris Sport "genuine elephant ear" saddle?
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This is how I got my Hetchins. I put in a bid as a gesture to the seller, with whom I'd had several exchanges on Retrobike. I was absolutely certain it was go for 2-3X my bid.

Ooops.

In the end, I am quite glad. That said, no more "marker bids". Just the watch list.
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As a seller I had an auction with one bidder, then a second bidder who placed several bids until he hit the reserve, then retracted his bid. Maybe he was bidding for the other guy, to expose my reserve. I don't know what good it did, ended up selling to a later bidder.

I do "watch" a lot of stuff, over time, market research, before starting an auction, to get a sense of what I will net.
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Anyone need a Paris Sport "genuine elephant ear" saddle?
I may be interested. Pictures please!
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Originally Posted by balindamood
I occasionally peruse the acutions ending on Ebay looking for bargains, and just to look at some of the insanity. Frequently I will find things like 70's Italian racing frames still listed for $19.99, etc. I frequently put marker bids on interesting things just so Ebay sends me a convienient e-mail telling me that my $21.00 bid did not win and the ending price was $2200.

I almost got bit yesterday. 1990 Bridgestone MB-0 in Calgary listed at $199. I figured it would go for 2-3X that, so I put a marker bid on it at a little over the asking price. I was sweating bullets last night as no one else bid one it and I was looking at at least $250 on top of what would otherwize be a bargain. Looked at the seller with a feedback of 4 and was seriously considering asking Randy to help make sure the thing got packaged correctly. Someone sniped it with 30-seconds left.

Thank you, whoever you are.
No, it wasn't me!!

30 seconds is NOT A SNIPE!!

Real Snipers work at 2 seconds and lower!!
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" marker bids" what is that, some new idiotic idea for people with low self esteem? Christ, use the watch list man!Ebay is not for children anymore...
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Originally Posted by Pistard
" marker bids" what is that, some new idiotic idea for people with low self esteem? Christ, use the watch list man!Ebay is not for children anymore...
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I see something I like, it goes on the watch list, and I wait until the last 2 or 1 second and then I go with my max bid. IMO, any marker or early bids just pushes the price up and alerts others that you are on to the item. Again, making others push the price up. For sellers, that is a God Send, for buyers, it is the pits!!
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Originally Posted by cehowardGS
30 seconds is NOT A SNIPE!!

Real Snipers work at 2 seconds and lower!!
Truth! 30-second "snipes" went out with dialup.
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I lowballed an offer ($300) a Mercian on ebay w/ a BIN of $500. I am very glad he came back at $400. Kids would not have had Christmas.
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I lowballed an offer ($300) a Mercian on ebay w/ a BIN of $500. I am very glad he came back at $400. Kids would not have had Christmas.
I made an offer yesterday, it had a high BIN price or best offer, so I placed what I thought was a realistic to pushing it high offer. As I was well under the selling price, I figured I would be getting a counter offer, and I was just going to walk away, as it made no sense for me to buy another bike. Five seconds later, if there was a cancel your bid button, I would have been pushing it. But as long as he didn't take my offer, I was going to be OK.

So I checked back later, what, no messages on a counter offer? WTF? What's this, I do have an item to pay for. Was I bidding on anything else?

So now I have yet another series Paramount headed my way, and my first plastic bike.

What was I thinking???


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Originally Posted by Pistard
" marker bids" what is that, some new idiotic idea for people with low self esteem? Christ, use the watch list man!Ebay is not for children anymore...
The purpose of the marker bids I do is this: Enter the minimum bid if I'm interested and it's a good deal. If I get OUTBID I instantly get an email from eBay saying that. Then I decide whether I want to use eSnipe to finish it off. If I don't get the e-mail from eBay about being outbid that means I won the auction for the minimum bid AND I didn't use bid points at eSnipe to do it and I'm happy to get it for the minimum. If I later snipe the auction then all is good too. I'm still happy because I got it for my price or less.

There is a place for the "marker bids".

Of course, if eBay would let me set an e-mail reminder like "It's 90 minutes to the end of this auction you're watching, wanna do anything?" then all this wouldn't be necessary.
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This raises the question, how many items are on you watch list right now? I have 35 bike items (plus 2 or 3 audio items). Of the 35 only about 5 I would actualy buy at the price they are now. The remainder is just curiosity and interest in case I sell a similar item.
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Although I use the watch button primarily, I occasionally like to use marker bids. If I win, I got a great buy. If I lose, I didn't expect to win anyhow. It is a small way to make ebay fun and interesting. Just 2 weeks ago, I had the highest bid for an Eddie Merckx. It lasted for 2 days. The winning bid was $500 more than my highest bid ($200). For a time, I was the front guy.

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This raises the question, how many items are on you watch list right now? I have 35 bike items (plus 2 or 3 audio items). Of the 35 only about 5 I would actualy buy at the price they are now. The remainder is just curiosity and interest in case I sell a similar item.
I normally watch 5-6 items. I primarily watch things that I am establishing a value.
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Of course, if eBay would let me set an e-mail reminder like "It's 90 minutes to the end of this auction you're watching, wanna do anything?" then all this wouldn't be necessary.
The eBay iPhone app does almost exactly this.... though I find in the 15 minutes from the reminder to auction end I can still forget to bid.
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I went to $500 on that chromed Pinarello Montello on eBay. I'd have gone $600 if I thought it would win. $733, and I'm a bit relieved.

I have zero items in my Watch List, but will put 20 things on it before I streamline it to bids.

I search the items I need, and select anything even close that's on the search list, move it to Watch.
Then, I go through the Watch List, eliminating the ones I am sure will be priced too high.

I'll make "marker" bids on the ones I want to monitor, and I delete my watch list.
Generally during the time the auction runs, I'll either decide to snag that item or bail and hide it.

More often than not, if the item is something I'm willing to pay serious dead-even cash for,
I ask the seller if he/she considers BIN?

1 out of 4 times, I get a response, and about 1 out of 4 of those actually has a price I can live with.
I still bid on items, but I don't snipe. It either goes for what I won't pay or I get it for what I will.

I do know how to snipe, though. Breathe Relax Aim Stop Squeeze.
Real snipers take their time.

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Originally Posted by cehowardGS
30 seconds is NOT A SNIPE!!

Real Snipers work at 2 seconds and lower!!
Yeah, I lost a bid a week or so ago in the last second.

I'm watching several items now and trying to figure how to play it. I can hit it with a high bid, or wait it out. Most likely I won't have access to a computer when they end though. Sellers seem to like ending their auctions at "peak availability" times like Sunday afternoons, but those of us who do stuff like ride bikes on the weekends are usually not around to participate. That's exactly the wrong time for me.
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Can't one still retract bids on eBay?
No. That's why I like "snipe" bidding (i.e. waiting until the last few seconds to place a bid). Software makes the easy and unattended, and you can cancel the snipe right up until the bid is placed in the last few seconds.
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Software makes the easy and unattended, and you can cancel the snipe right up until the bid is placed in the last few seconds.
Okay, fill in this relatively novice ebay'er how software does this. Is it something on the ebay site (that I missed), or a service offered by some other site like an ebay proxy? Not that I'm looking to do it much but when I need a part I'd like to have a level playing surface, if you take my meaning.
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Originally Posted by jimmuller
Okay, fill in this relatively novice ebay'er how software does this. Is it something on the ebay site (that I missed), or a service offered by some other site like an ebay proxy? Not that I'm looking to do it much but when I need a part I'd like to have a level playing surface, if you take my meaning.
Its a service, not affiliated with ebay. I use esnipe.com, there are many others out there.
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Sometimes putting a modest bid in early can scare other bidder off. If they see an item already has interest, they'll figure it will end up too pricy. I also will put in a first (quite low) bid on an item I don't really need, but would be a valuable steal at that price. Set it, and forget it. If I get a "you won" email on such an auction that I've completely forgotten it's like Christmas.
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