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Old 01-26-12, 11:26 AM   #1
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Help Identifying Campy Ergo Shifter

I've never seen a shifter like this that had plain smooth levers and no lettering or design, just the stenciled logo. This is supposedly late 7 or 8 speed vintage. Rest of the bike is Chorus and mostly Athena. Any ideas?

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EC-02RE CG. First generation Record Ergopower shifters (8 speed). The same shifters were used with Record, Chorus and Athena as I understand it.
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I agree, first generation that came out as Record 8 speed.
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I had a set of those. They have a nice feel to them. But I will warn you that at least in my use they did not play nicely with a 7/8 speed Chorus rear derailleur (the one with the A/B selector). Worked great with a 9s Chorus (as an 8) however.
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I'd like to see the tips of the brake levers myself; you may have the very first version (1992). Mine are first-generation; before I stripped the anodizing off, they did have the same logo as yours, but the blades lack the diagonal engravings further down the lever:



Note the funky tips of the brake levers - a sure sign these are first-gen. It's obvious your levers are fairly early as the bodies are alloy with the black rubberized coating. Mine are the same, although the black coating has been removed for a custom build.

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I too never really figured out 100% what my NOS Ergo shifter levers really are.:

8 speeds so they are early ones, plus they do not have the printed model name on the lever body above the levers as new ones do.
The brake quick release buttons seem to match early Chorus and Athena designs.
I haven't seen one with the same lever arm style yet (note angled grooves at levers) .
The black plastic(resin?) shifter levers behind the brake levers seem to indicate a lower than Chorus and maybe Athena model, but then again, I still haven't seen this exact lever anywhere yet.
Is this maybe a slightly later "Mirage" ergo lever or something similar?? Were there such things??
BTW, they're as heavy as hell!
Is this partucular model and style ergo shifter levers one that people might be really looking for these days? It will be nice to know if they will match up too with the NOS first gen Athena RD I also have.
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I had a set of those. They have a nice feel to them. But I will warn you that at least in my use they did not play nicely with a 7/8 speed Chorus rear derailleur (the one with the A/B selector). Worked great with a 9s Chorus (as an 8) however.
OK, well here's the only shot I have of the RD. Upper cage cutout and cylindrical screw on the bottom. Would that be Record, Chorus, or Athena? In any case I would guess the RD is a bit later version that the ergo shifters. Any ideas?
Also would this be a derailleur I could expect to be a good match and work well with the ergo shifters in my original post?


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Looks like an 8 speed Chorus RD to me.
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I'm using the same shifters and deraileur but with a 7sp HG freewheel. It works very well.

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Damn, Colonel, that's a beauty!!!
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I second the use of the 8 speed ergos with a 7 sp HG freewheel. Shifting is excellent.

[QUOTE=ColonelJLloyd;13771770]I'm using the same shifters and deraileur but with a 7sp HG freewheel. It works very well.
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OK, well here's the only shot I have of the RD. Upper cage cutout and cylindrical screw on the bottom. Would that be Record, Chorus, or Athena? In any case I would guess the RD is a bit later version that the ergo shifters. Any ideas?
Also would this be a derailleur I could expect to be a good match and work well with the ergo shifters in my original post?

Hmmm.. I was told that my Athena was actually an early Chorus, relabled as Athena to establish the new lower model.

As you can see from this pic, the lower pivot design on that one looks very different. (You do not see the pivot polt on it) from my Athena, so your's might not be a Chorus??......
Although, you can still see a lot of parts that are identical too...... Campy's parts musical chair RD design process at work??

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I'm using the same shifters and deraileur but with a 7sp HG freewheel. It works very well.

Does this mean you can mate Campy Ergos to a 126mm hub and HG?
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Does this mean you can mate Campy Ergos to a 126mm hub and HG?
8 speed, yes.
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Does this mean you can mate Campy Ergos to a 126mm hub and HG?
Same 5.0 mm spacing with cog and spacer thickness that's barely different (.05mm) in opposite directions making the sum total right on.

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But I will warn you that at least in my use they did not play nicely with a 7/8 speed Chorus rear derailleur (the one with the A/B selector).
They're not supposed to. That's the pre-Ergo generation of RD; designed for use with Syncro downtube indexing only.

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OK, well here's the only shot I have of the RD. Upper cage cutout and cylindrical screw on the bottom. Would that be Record, Chorus, or Athena? In any case I would guess the RD is a bit later version that the ergo shifters. Any ideas?
Also would this be a derailleur I could expect to be a good match and work well with the ergo shifters in my original post?

That is a 1992 Chorus, the same era as the ergopower.
They will shift very good together.
I have the same ergopower and derailleur and they are still working perfect after 20 years
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FYI: I have modeled the 8 speed ergo spring carrier in solidworks and posted an "STL" file on thingiverse.com that can be downloaded for free and then be printed in plastic or metal. While a plastic version will work, I don't expect it to survive too long. So, you can use a service like i.materilise.com to print it in aluminum, steel, stainless steel, or titanium if you have cash to burn. I chose to print with brass infused steel for US$31 delivered with a 2-week turnaround. Aluminum was more expensive to print. I suspect it would crack just like the oringial aluminum part. So, my carrier will be slightly hevier, but it should hold up over time. I post images of the printed part before I install and run it.

Regards to all who keep old groupos running.

UPDATE - Steel infused with bronze part came back from i.materialise.com and after opening up the spring holes with a 0.059" drill bit assebled and worked on the bike. Future updates on this will be posted to the part file page on thingiverse.com That location also shows pictures of the actual printed part with springs loaded and also place on the shift ratchet gear.

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