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Info on a Japanese bike from the early early '70s, maybe late '60s

Old 02-01-12, 02:34 PM
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Info on a Japanese bike from the early early '70s, maybe late '60s

My wife was born in 1960. She was telling me how her dad bought her and her older sister's new 10 speed bikes back when she was a girl. I'm guessing she was roughly around 10-12 years old.

Her sister's bikes are long gone but she still has her bike. No, I don't have pictures yet, but I will get some in the next couple of days. The bike is a green lugged Japanese bike called Tiger Bikes by the emblem on the stem. It says made in Japan by the BB. There are no other identifying marks. I tried looking up Tiger Bikes but could find no info.

The story was that her dad and mom didn't have a lot of money when growing up but her dad had been saving up his money for a while. Then one day he comes home with 3 new bikes in the bed of his pickup for the 3 sisters. His wife was mad since she had no idea where he got the money for the bikes from. he had been saving his extra money for quite a while to buy the bikes. He had bought them at a LBS as far as my wife remembers. Her mom and dad have passed on so we can't ask them.

The bike appears to be a 26" men's bike, it does not have a step though frame. I am not sure of the brand of components it has, but i will look that up later. The lugs are painted the same shade of green as the rest of the bike was painted. The cranks are cottered but that jives with being from the late '60s/early '70s. It still is in nice shape but will need a complete workover, new cables, greased,cleaned, etc. She kept it garaged since she moved out of her house in '79.

I'm wondering if this bike is anything desirable or worth fixing up or is not much more than a cheap throwaway.
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please post pictures, it's hard to identify the bike without them.
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Having grown up in that era, I would guess a little later, more like 1972 +/-. I remember the influx of Japanese bikes into the market. All of a sudden, you could get something a lot lighter than the Schwinns we were used to, for a similar or lower price. I am guessing entry level, so the rebuilt would be more about sentimental reasons, rather than investment.
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Yup, I'm going to get pictures. I figured it would be more about sentimental value than anything else but I had to ask. Does anyone know anything about Tiger Bikes though? I just hope it isn't a rebranded C.Itoh which I read are nasty.
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Just talked to the wife, she got the bike when she was 13, maybe 14. So that places it around 1973 or so.
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Old 02-01-12, 03:18 PM
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By co-incidence, I just saw a spec for a Tiger T001 this morning. It was a $99 entry level model in 1973, with Shimano Eagle derailleurs mated to stem shifters and was distributed by Recreational Equipment out of Seattle, Washington. Sounds like this could be a former name for REI and Tiger could be a predecessor to Novara? Regardless, the serial number may give us a clue to the actual manufacturer.
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Yup. Her bike has those knob stem shutters. Sounds like that could be the same bike.
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Took a bunch of pictures but it was dark out so the pictures didn't come out that good. Also there is an old 5speed Hawthrone bike behind the green bike, is that anything worth fixing up?

https://s904.photobucket.com/albums/a...r/old%20bikes/

The pictures make the bike look far worse than it does when sitting outside in the open. LOL
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Reminds me of a bike my brother picked up a little while back, his was a panther road bike from about the same era. Had the same exact shifters too.

His had a really cool headbadge, it rode pretty well surprisingly.

Info on these types of bikes is hard to come by, let alone value. I had only seen one other panther besides his and very little info on here and the rest of the web.

I'd fix just about any bike up if i really wanted to ride it, are you trying to ride it or sell it?

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After reading the story of how that bike came to be and the passing of the parents why even wonder the value of the bike? It is irreplaceable to your wife in my opinion. I wish I had a connection to one of my bikes (I have over 20) like she should have to that one.
I would keep it in perfect condition and pass it on to the next generation!
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Yes, Recreational Equipment is REI, and they started in Seattle.
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Yes, Recreational Equipment is REI, and they started in Seattle.
Thxs. I thought it might be but wasn't sure. I couldn't find any evidence of a direct connection on their website. However, given the similarities in name and location, it was a definite possibility.

The charactacteristics of the bicycle certainly fit a circa 1973, $99 bicycle. The derailleur and stem shifters match the limited specs I have, as does year, so it most likely is a T001. I wonder if the OP's local REI might have an employee with 40+ years service, who could corroborate it?

I saw what appears to be a serial number at the top, left side of the seat lug, but couldn't make it out.
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After reading the story of how that bike came to be and the passing of the parents why even wonder the value of the bike? It is irreplaceable to your wife in my opinion. I wish I had a connection to one of my bikes (I have over 20) like she should have to that one.
I would keep it in perfect condition and pass it on to the next generation!
To be honest, I just didn't want to throw a ton of money at it if it was not worth fixing up at all. My wife also has a low end dept store guitar from when she was like 10 but part of it got crushed a tad. Talked to someone who could restore it and they said it would cost about 200 to fix. But the guitar is worth about 30 dollars top in decent condition. So even though it has strong sentimental value to my wife, she isn't going to restore.

As for my wife's bike, we weren't getting rid of it but my wife also will never be able to ride again, she had a hemorrhagic stroke about 6 years ago and that took away a large portion of her balance. So the bike would be fixed up purely for show and just sentimental reasons. Maybe her daughter might ride it but doubtful, her daughter can be vain and only likes the newest and greatest things at times.

Plus it could be cool to say to my wife "hey, your bike all fixed up would be worth around 250 dollars, isn't that cool!".

I will probably just clean it up as best as I can and maybe replace the cables and lube everything.
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Also since it is a low end bike, does that mean Murry/Huffy low end or is it more of a LBS low end bike? I really would be curious about the quality of the bike.
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Also since it is a low end bike, does that mean Murry/Huffy low end or is it more of a LBS low end bike? I really would be curious about the quality of the bike.
Both, LBS low end back then was really low, much lower than today. On the other hand, Huffy back then was even lower. Low end at a bike shop today is more like mid grade or higher back then. Of course, all the components have changed, so its really hard to compare.
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can be vain and only likes the newest and greatest things at times.
Sounds like some of the modern roadies on the road forum jk
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