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Old 02-09-12, 07:09 PM
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great bike! can we get detailed pics of the rear suspension? does it all still function properly?
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Old 02-09-12, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by thirdgenbird View Post
great bike! can we get detailed pics of the rear suspension? does it all still function properly?
Yes everything still works although when this batch of elastomers wear out then i don't know. I posted some more pictures for you to look at.
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Old 02-09-12, 08:15 PM
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What a time capsule, oberthecat. I always wanted one of those Manitous. Thanks for posting
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Old 02-09-12, 08:17 PM
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My daughter rides dirt roads on this '74 PA10 with PX10 parts. I geared it down with 48X40 chain rings and a 14X28 freewheel. The tires are 28mm cyclocross tubulars. She insisted that I add the interrupter levers.

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Originally Posted by oberthecat View Post
Yes everything still works although when this batch of elastomers wear out then i don't know.
I've used these guys for rebuilding early suspension forks with pretty good luck -

https://www.suspensionforkparts.net/e...iewCat&catId=8

Not cheap, but that bike may be worth keeping around.
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Old 02-09-12, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by thirdgenbird View Post
they are 700x30 kenda kwick tires. i dont have a lot of experience with cross tires but i hate these. it feels like you are riding in a bucket of wallpaper paste. i got them for free from a local guy that took them off his new cross bike in favor of something much nicer. he said new tires made a world of difference.
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Casey,

I tried some last summer and they didn't work for me either.

I have friends that swear by them, but then again, they aren't the most discerning bunch.
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it may depend on where you ride. i used them on the local single track and they seemed fine (the 10 mile ride to get there sucked though)

the bike is mainly used for running around town and they are ok for that. i would hate to ride them at speed on a geared bike.
I did last year's Ragbrai and a 175-mile day ride on a set. Now that much of the tread has worn away, they're not as much work to propel, but I am looking forward to the day I replace these. Seems like Ritchey Speedmax would perform similarly on paved roads -- are they better somehow?

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Old 02-09-12, 09:08 PM
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The Speedmax is a decent gravel tire when things are dry.

The outer nubs help in loose gravel when you are turning. They seem to give extra grab.

They also roll fairly well on paved roads and concrete.

On the downside, the road feel is nothing near a Ruffy Tuffy for example.

The big plus is the price.

I bought a set for $25.
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Old 02-09-12, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by gomango View Post
The Speedmax is a decent gravel tire when things are dry.

The outer nubs help in loose gravel when you are turning. They seem to give extra grab.

They also roll fairly well on paved roads and concrete.

On the downside, the road feel is nothing near a Ruffy Tuffy for example.

The big plus is the price.

I bought a set for $25.
+1 That's exactly why I use them here in AZ.
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Old 02-09-12, 11:07 PM
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If a mix with paved road feel is important than then the Challenge Grifo XS (32c) roll REALLY nice...if you ride looser stuff then I have had good luck with Kenda Small Block 8s (32 or 35c)...My 2c.
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Old 02-09-12, 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by buldogge View Post
If a mix with paved road feel is important than then the Challenge Grifo XS (32c) roll REALLY nice...if you ride looser stuff then I have had good luck with Kenda Small Block 8s (32 or 35c)...My 2c.
Absolutely right.

A Grifo XS is a fabulous choice.

Used these with my Bruce Gordon for a summer.

Again, I have friends that recommend Small Block 8s as well. Great price!
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Old 02-09-12, 11:18 PM
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+1 That's exactly why I use them here in AZ.
I'll bet they work great in your climate!
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Old 02-10-12, 08:13 AM
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Robert, at some point you're going to have to turn your camera around for some shots of the interior of whatever shed/outbuilding/garage/shop/home LBS you turn these projects out from-- you a wrenching mad man, and i'd love to see where it all comes from
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Well.....


heres my gravel grinder...?




I think I'm doing it wrong :|
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And here's my wife on her Pug.
Road starts out gravel, turns to dirt, mud, and back to gravel.

The mud wasnt deep but kind of squirrley!



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Oh, how did I miss this thread??!! I will have to go back and read all the posts, but for now this is the bike I purpose-built for dirt roads, fire trails and general unpaved surfaces. I had never heard the term "gravel grinder". I took a 1984 Shogun 1500 touring bike and converted it to 650B, while also having some other modifications done to the frame by a local frame builder, followed by a nice new powder coat. It wears 41mm wide Grand Bois Hetres and has gearing to climb dirt hills like a mountain goat. It has seen more dirt and gravel than pavement:



This is my favorite type of road (from the D2R2 ride in Western MA):


Another road from this past summer's D2R2 ride:


A local rail trail outside of Boston:


View from the cockpit:


The hetres seriously make riding on dirt feel like riding on a cloud, but next year I might consider swapping them out for something with a more aggressive tread. The hetres tend to slide around in really deep mud, and they also lose some traction on loose dirt on steep hills (like some of the short 20% grades that D2R2 is known for).

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Old 02-10-12, 04:19 PM
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and my old friend, a bruce gordon
beautiful bike
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Originally Posted by PHT View Post
Well.....


heres my gravel grinder...?

I think I'm doing it wrong :|

They're bikes; I don't think you can do it wrong as long as you don't Drew something or ride around like a salmoning ninja fixie hipster.

Southpaw - I need to see if I can get back for this D2R2 thing. Looks like fun. In the past that date used to coincide with the summer vacation in central Mass, but my son's football has made us push the annual pilgrimage earlier. Does it usually sell out? I'm starting to scheme about coming back by myself for the weekend.

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Well.....

heres my gravel grinder...?



I think I'm doing it wrong :|
Definitely not! English 3-speeds are great on rough surfaces... arguably, that's what they're designed for.

My Armstrong would probably make the best gravel bike out of my collection, but I've kinda babied it so far...
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It's now sporting a set of Pasela TG 1.75's a rear rack with rollup panniers

Lots-a fun on gravel or snow!
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Old 02-11-12, 08:34 PM
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This is my wife's Norco.
I just installed the cream tires and Bianchi aluminium wheels last week.
We will be getting a matching saddle soon.
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My 1972 Raleigh Grand Sports handles the gravel surprisingly well and is a blast to ride!




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I don't have much gravel around here to grind, but if I did I would be riding this:
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Old 02-14-12, 07:35 PM
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When I grind gravel I generally use one of these:



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both of which currently have fenders, and the Bianchi has a Brooks, knackered faux-leather bar-tape, Noodles, and 28c GB's.

Or this guy, which gets ridden exactly as pictured:




edit: Whoops, the Cross-Check isn't C or V. Oh well, try and enjoy it anyhow.
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A few weeks ago, some of us took a ride the tow paths next to the Delaware River, just a bit north of Trenton. We rode "club racer" type bikes, with fenders. The fenders turned out to be a huge liability. Mud got between the tires and the fenders. On some of our bikes, it got packed into the fenders very hard, and we had to chip it away vigorously, because the wheel couldn't not turn at all. It caused several breakdowns, and my fenders even got damaged as a result. So be warned not to ride in mud with low-clearance fenders.
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edit: Whoops, the Cross-Check isn't C or V. Oh well, try and enjoy it anyhow.
Dude, don't self-incriminate. They all look the same covered in 10lb of mud!
Impressive how the entire bike is mud-covered except the bar tape, though.

And you're going to need to post more pics of that third bike. Looks like a CCM with uber-cool chain guard.
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