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TimmyT 02-10-12 06:15 PM

7spd, 11t Freewheel
 
Hi,
After some searching, it has become apparent to me that ramped freewheels with less than 13t are difficult to come by. The only manufacturer is DNP which makes a few in 11-28, 11-30, and 11-32 flavors. Does anyone have any experience using these? Reports so far have been variable.

http://www.universalcycles.com/image...dium/49866.jpg

http://www.universalcycles.com/shopp...s.php?id=49866

TIA,
Tim

Fred Smedley 02-10-12 06:22 PM

A seven speed with a 11 tooth makes for to wide of spacing in the gears I most often want to use.

TimmyT 02-10-12 06:32 PM

Yeah, I need the real estate up high. There are a few hills I bomb down. On one bike, I have a 52 - 11 on a 175mm crank for 127 gear inches. The other one has a 52 - 14, 175 mm cranks for 97 gear inches. If I had about 110 gear inches on the bike with the freewheel, I would be OK. Anything above 120 gear inches covers the riding I do.

Oldpeddaller 02-11-12 02:11 PM

54 Tooth chainring be any good?

ThermionicScott 02-11-12 02:27 PM

Huh, I didn't know you could even get freewheels with cogs under 13T. You should just build a wheel with a Capreo hub. ;)

- Scott

miamijim 02-11-12 06:29 PM


Originally Posted by TimmyT (Post 13836942)
On one bike, I have a 52 - 11 on a 175mm crank for 127 gear inches.

What cadence can you hit with the 52-11? If you can't hit 120 an 11t isn't needed.

top506 02-12-12 07:22 AM

Shimano used to make an 11-28. It's been discontinued in the US, but a few years back a Canadian member was able to source a couple for me through the Canadian distribution network. I don't know if they're still available 'up north', though.
I've replaced a lot of lunched DNP freewheels that had shed teeth.

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753proguy 02-12-12 01:34 PM


Originally Posted by TimmyT (Post 13836942)
Yeah, I need the real estate up high. There are a few hills I bomb down. On one bike, I have a 52 - 11 on a 175mm crank for 127 gear inches. The other one has a 52 - 14, 175 mm cranks for 97 gear inches. If I had about 110 gear inches on the bike with the freewheel, I would be OK. Anything above 120 gear inches covers the riding I do.

Yowsah! That's knee-bustin' stuff.

Back in the day, Suntour did make some 11-tooth Winner seven-speed freewheels. I've seen precisely one sell on eBay in the past ten years. I don't think they made very many at all. I presume that the one I saw was legitimate?

I have a Moulton-modified Regina CX-S that has a ten-tooth smallest cog. The moulton-sourced cogs are rather crudely-made, however.

Nothing like a 10-17 freewheel, though! 10-11-13-14-15-16-17 is the progression. Note that the 14 is the middle cog in a seven-speed!

So much for the old 'fundamental law of gearing' that stated that a 14 was the smallest gear that was possible.

TimmyT 02-12-12 03:39 PM


Originally Posted by miamijim (Post 13840256)
What cadence can you hit with the 52-11? If you can't hit 120 an 11t isn't needed.

I only use the 52-11 on downhills for precisely this reason. I spend most of my time in the next lower gear, which is the 13t, I believe. That's on one bike with a Shimano cassette.

The other bike has a freewheel with a 14t as its smallest ring. A 13t (readily available on a Shimano freewheel) gives me an extra 4 gear inches, which means my cadence doesn't drop enough. On this bike a 50-11 would probably be high, too, but I am not familiar with the DNP brand of freewheel.

With the responses given so far (i.e., few have direct experience with this freewheel), I should buy it, roll on it for a few hundred miles, and come to my own conclusion.

triplebutted 02-12-12 03:47 PM

I need these for my classic bikes cause I'll be needing a triple up front with a 50 large.

Jeff Wills 02-12-12 05:33 PM


Originally Posted by 753proguy (Post 13842822)
Yowsah! That's knee-bustin' stuff.

Back in the day, Suntour did make some 11-tooth Winner seven-speed freewheels. I've seen precisely one sell on eBay in the past ten years. I don't think they made very many at all. I presume that the one I saw was legitimate?

I'm pretty sure the 11-tooth 7-speed cogs were pretty rare. For the truly demented, Suntour offered a Winner Pro 11-tooth "Z" cog and 13-tooth "X" cog so you could create a non-Ultra 6-speed freewheel starting with 11. Weird, but I'm pretty sure the parts existed.

Captain Blight 02-12-12 05:37 PM

I guess I'd rather spread the load with a bigger chainring than a smaller cog. That said, the biggest I can gear I can pull on the flat in no-wind conditions is a 53-15 and and I can't keep that up for long. 20 years of running around with a beer in one hand and a bong in the other with a cigarette dangling from my lip took its toll.

I can still climb like a motherfather, but I reckon the backside of the slope is for coasting down.

Jeff Wills 02-12-12 05:37 PM


Originally Posted by Chuckk (Post 13843542)
Use a cassette hub on the back. 11's are easy to find in 8 or 9 speed.

Shimano started making 11-tooth cogs common with 7-speed cassettes. 11-tooth 6-speed cogs were more rare, and 5-speed apparently existed, but I've never seen one for real:
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/shimano1982/pages/20.html

darinm 02-12-12 05:38 PM

I use a 7sp Dura-Ace 11-21t and I've seen them sell on ebay recently

darinm 02-12-12 05:44 PM

Edit

I just checked again and I guess I was mistaken about them being on ebay, saw a few 12's but no 11's

Jeff Wills 02-12-12 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by darinm (Post 13843604)
Edit

I just checked again and I guess I was mistaken about them being on ebay, saw a few 12's but no 11's

Yep. Shimano 7-speed Dura-Ace and Santé freewheels bottomed out at 12 teeth. You might be able to get a NOS one from Euro-Asia:
http://www.euroasiaimports.com/produ...-1103p3433.htm
if you want to mortgage your firstborn.

Jeff Wills 02-12-12 10:01 PM


Originally Posted by Chuckk (Post 13844654)
Grind two teeth off a 13?


Ack! Thbbft!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...Billthecat.jpg

ThermionicScott 02-12-12 10:03 PM

I'm tellin' ya, use a 9-26 Capreo freehub, and the world will be your oyster. :thumb:

triplebutted 02-13-12 08:43 AM

A 50/11 is a bigger gear than 52/12. But I was very lucky to find an SR 53 110mm chainring on Ebay last night!!! Now I can use easily available 12-? range freewheels.

T-Mar 02-13-12 08:51 AM

I stll have a small supply of new, Shimano 11-28T, 7 speed HyperGlide freewheels. I've sent out a few to fellow forum members, in the past.

ACH57 02-13-12 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by T-Mar (Post 13845738)
I stll have a small supply of new, Shimano 11-28T, 7 speed HyperGlide freewheels. I've sent out a few to fellow forum members, in the past.

T-Mar, do they take a special thin wall tool to remove? I'm looking for something like this to go on my '81 Centurion Super LeMans with a 46/34 on the front. What are the ratios on the 11-28?

T-Mar 02-13-12 10:20 AM


Originally Posted by ACH57 (Post 13846079)
T-Mar, do they take a special thin wall tool to remove? I'm looking for something like this to go on my '81 Centurion Super LeMans with a 46/34 on the front. What are the ratios on the 11-28?

Yes, they use the thin wall tool. 11-13-15-18-21-24-28T.

jan nikolajsen 02-13-12 10:32 AM

To me the biggest reason I went away from the retro goodness of freewheels is the scarcity of 11 and 12T clusters.

When I ride in the mountains with my buddies I might hang on the way up but get dropped like a stone on the descents without something close to 120 gear inches.

ACH57 02-13-12 11:31 AM


Originally Posted by T-Mar (Post 13846148)
Yes, they use the thin wall tool. 11-13-15-18-21-24-28T.

I don't quite have enough posts to PM so if you would like to part with one maybe you could email me at firehawk108@gmail.com?


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