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Old 01-01-14, 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by gomango
Looks nice Casey.

The wheels are, of course, top shelf and the cages/plugs nice "detail" adds.

What tires are you thinking of to complete this beauty?
Deda if I go cheap

veloflex Roubaix if I spurge
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Originally Posted by thirdgenbird
Deda if I go cheap

veloflex Roubaix if I spurge
Funny you should mention the Roubaixs.

I just got a pair for my older Kvale for Christmas.

Westernbikeworks has a good price on them at $83.99 with the code.

https://www.westernbikeworks.com/prod...FbBAMgodJXsASA

Try using double codes and sign up for their email list. If they will let you, you code pick up an additional 15%.

They are exceptional tires, especially at this price.
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Do you know the full measured width? I hear it is 24-25mm
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Do you know the full measured width? I hear it is 24-25mm
I'll check mine when I get home and let you know later tonight.
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My Tecno

Grady has seen this before, but most of you haven't seen it with the latest update. Anyhow, here it is:

Tesa red Columbus Nemo with alloy Chous 10, Mavic OP with Chorus hubs, and most recently Brooks Swift saddle and bartape.

I love the looks of the Brooks on lugged steel. I love the way it rides! I will never sell it. Pics show the different updates since I initially picked it up with DA9.
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Very nice updates!

those are the same cages I just took off. I'm still not sure what to do with them yet. They are very nice cages. chorus 10 is also one of my favorites, as are the white keo 2max pedals.

let me know if you ever want that stem polished.
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Originally Posted by Ride-Fly
Grady has seen this before, but most of you haven't seen it with the latest update. Anyhow, here it is:

Tesa red Columbus Nemo with alloy Chous 10, Mavic OP with Chorus hubs, and most recently Brooks Swift saddle and bartape.

I love the looks of the Brooks on lugged steel. I love the way it rides! I will never sell it. Pics show the different updates since I initially picked it up with DA9.
Swoooon.

Good golly, they look great in each version.

Don't tell anyone, but I rode my Super Prestige with a Swallow most of the summer.

Are you breaking in that Swift or is it breaking you in?
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Old 01-01-14, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by thirdgenbird
Very nice updates!

those are the same cages I just took off. I'm still not sure what to do with them yet. They are very nice cages. chorus 10 is also one of my favorites, as are the white keo 2max pedals.

let me know if you ever want that stem polished.
Very few out polish Campy products like Casey. Imho

They look better than new after he is finished with them.
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Old 01-29-14, 01:42 PM
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1991 Tommasini Competizione

Here is my recently acquired 1991 Tommasini Competizione with the Quattro Colori color scheme:



It came to me with a mix of Campy 8 Speed parts (but curiously had a brand new 10 speed Centaur crank on it). The 8 speed wheel hubs it came with had some issues so I decided to convert it to 10 speed Campy Veloce and Vento wheels. My friend Roadrunner2012 advised me and helped me put it together (thanks John!)

I sent pictures of the frameset to the Tommasini factory and received a prompt reply from Barbara. She confirmed it was a 1991 Competizione with Columbus SL tubing. She said these were made for the US market only in the '90's in order to "offer a top quality frame like the Prestige with a more competitive price". The BB shell is stamped 02 US.





Here is a detail of the seat cluster that I believe is unique to this model, and one of the three color panels. Each panel has 4 colors and they alternate so the bike has a unique appearance depending on where you view it from. The chrome and paint are in excellent condition.





The view from the non-drive side. Normally, I wouldn't show this, but this bike has a different look from this side.





The downtube panel features the color pink facing up, blue on the drive side, orange facing down, and yellow on the non-drive side.

This is my first Italian bike (in fact its my first new bike in 30 years!) and its a hot rod for sure. The ride is firm, but not harsh, smooth, yet responsive. It corners like its riding on rails. I'm still learning to ride it and get the hang of 10 speed indexed ergos and clipless pedals (I'm used to downtube friction shifters and toe clips). Thanks to all the posters here in the Lounge for sharing their beautiful bikes and stories, its a great resource!

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Old 01-29-14, 01:48 PM
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wow, stunning
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Old 01-29-14, 05:43 PM
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Hi Saguaro,

Such a great bike. I've never ridden that model, but I did own a similar frameset for a bit.

Yours look super fresh and I bet you are going to love the ride.

I have two Tommasinis and I think they're both tops.

FWIW It looks like John gave you a hand with the build.
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Old 01-29-14, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by gomango
Hi Saguaro,

FWIW It looks like John gave you a hand with the build.
Indeed he did! I'm very grateful for the support he offered on this project. And thank YOU for offering your 8 speed wheelset for sale when I wasn't quite sure whether to stick with the 8 speed or go the 10 speed route.
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Indeed he did! I'm very grateful for the support he offered on this project. And thank YOU for offering your 8 speed wheelset for sale when I wasn't quite sure whether to stick with the 8 speed or go the 10 speed route.
No problem! I have plenty of them and I've been told it's nice to share.

I would love to hear your riding impressions when you get used to this beauty.

Also, isn't the finish's appearance nice! Really great paint on these bicycles.

Heck, I've even grown to love the splatter paint on my Super Prestige.

The paint on my Sintesi isn't very durable, but it sure looks sweet from 5 feet.

Enjoy your beautiful new Italian thoroughbred. Very snazzy.

Btw Those Gatorskins probably help keep flats at bay down there, but if you ever get a chance, try some Veloflex Master 25s.

That'll really make that baby sing.
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Old 01-29-14, 09:02 PM
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Working on my Sintesi.

Haven't decided on a few details yet, but I'm sorting through parts and wheelsets coming up with viable combos.

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Old 01-29-14, 10:18 PM
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Can anyone help me out? I have a comp that I bought a while ago. It is in super condition (looks new) so I bought it even thought the steam and post was frozen. I have finally given up trying to free the seat post and am going to start cutting it out from the inside with a sazsall and a metal cutting blade. I thought the stem was going to be easy. I was way wrong. I took off the brake and turned it upside down (made sure the bolt was flush with the bottom) and then put a steel shank almost the size of the head tube in it and then pounded on it with a hammer. I thought it would come out with just a few taps. It wont. I soaked it for many weeks with PB Blaster before this weekend. It's so pristiene I'm afraid to do anything with heat. I don't know what to do now. Any ideas?

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Originally Posted by squatchy
Can anyone help me out? I have a comp that I bought a while ago. It is in super condition (looks new) so I bought it even thought the steam and post was frozen. I have finally given up trying to free the seat post and am going to start cutting it out from the inside with a sazsall and a metal cutting blade. I thought the stem was going to be easy. I was way wrong. I took off the brake and turned it upside down (made sure the bolt was flush with the bottom) and then put a steel shank almost the size of the head tube in it and then pounded on it with a hammer. I thought it would come out with just a few taps. It wont. I soaked it for many weeks with PB Blaster before this weekend. It's so pristiene I'm afraid to do anything with heat. I don't know what to do now. Any ideas?

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First, I would say, step away from the Sawsall! If its as clean as you say, there has to be a better way to free up the stem and seatpost. Please post pictures of the bike so we can better assess the situation.
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Old 01-29-14, 10:38 PM
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I will have to get my camera tomorrow out of my ski gear at my GF's. I will hold off on the sawzall as well until you guys can give me some coaching. I also soaked the post for probably 8 weeks or more. Eventually it found it's way through so als to leak a little. I took a pipe wrench and attached it about 1/2" above the seat tube. I added a 2' pipe over the pipe wrench for leverage and had on guy hold the bike while I tried to loosen it. It did move maybe 1/4' or so but that was it. I have never done this before and am unsure of how much pressure I can put on the frame so I stopped because I didn't feet afraid of cutting out the seat post. I wll post picks tomorrow.

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+1 on not using a Sawsall. Also recommend minimizing the pounding...from experience as I recently didn't do any favors to an EMs Strada OS that had a stuck post, stem and BB. Ended up doing a hack saw blade down the center of the seat post after weeks of soaking-took lots of small slices (several hours) before it finally broke free.
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Old 01-29-14, 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by gomango
Working on my Sintesi.

Haven't decided on a few details yet, but I'm sorting through parts and wheelsets coming up with viable combos.

Beautiful. This is going to turn out great!
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Congrats Craig, what a wonderful choice for your first road racer. Love the white canvas to the colorful decals, gorgeous. And yes, you can see Roadrunner2012's influence in the build. Very nice drivetrain combo. So, are you sleeping next to it in the garage?

Yup Gatorskins are standard issue down here. Damn thorns!
Another great riding tire is Kenda's Kaliente Pro. I'll be stoned for this, but I like them better than Conti's Grand Prix 4000s.
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Old 02-01-14, 04:53 PM
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So as per some of you asking for pics so you might suggest some help. I can't find out how to load pics here on BF. Any help please?
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Old 02-01-14, 05:24 PM
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So I was able to move the post about 1/4" and then no more. If you read my above post it will tell the whole story. Can someone plz help?
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Old 02-01-14, 05:42 PM
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So I was able to move the post about 1/4" and then no more. If you read my above post it will tell the whole story. Can someone plz help?
Thanks for the photos, looks like a nice frame and worth protecting. I'm no expert on stuck stems and seatposts so I'm going to defer to those who know better. Its encouraging you got some movement in the seatpost, I think there is hope! if you don't get an answer in this thread, try starting a new thread and ask for help there. I'm sure you'll get lots of expert advise.
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If the post moves side to side, it will come out. Forget the PB Blaster, get some Kroil, its A LOT better at the job. Do you have a secure bench vise? As mentioned in my PM, be careful, as you can put more force trying to free up a seat post than your frame can withstand. You then go from a small problem to a huge problem.

On seat posts, I focus on getting them to rotate 360 degrees minimum, if not more, first, before working on getting them to come out.

I did have one stem that was stuck at a spot as I tried to pull it out. It would rotate relatively freely (not great, but I could turn it 360 degrees or more). But it would not come out. Another forum member convinced me to drive it down further into the seat tube (dangerous approach, as in my case, the post was already pretty far into the frame). Sure enough, something broke loose, and the seat post came out, no problem.

All of this was done with the seat post secured in my large bench vise. Forget the pipe wrench and having someone else hold the bike. You really need to control the frame carefully as you try to rotate it, or you run a much higher risk IMHO of damaging the frame.

On stuck stems, I am much more likely to cut them out., there's less to hold onto as tar as securing it in place. I do have a method, but it is too much typing and I can't explain it clearly enough in this format.

Without a secure bench and vise, I do not see any of my advice working.

As far as the wisdom of the list, there are a couple of THOUSAND threads on stuck posts and stems (Search via google). Just use your judgment, as a lot of listers have had one or two experiences, so their sure fire method may not work on the next one. I have done several dozen, everything works on some posts and stems. At one point, I was 12 for 12. I thought I was an expert. So I let my guard down, and bought stuck post bike #13 . After working on it for a couple of weeks, I was 12 for 13….. No single method works on every stuck post or stem, short of cutting them out.

And cutting them out beats the heck out of damaging your fork or frame by putting too much force on it. Bike frames were not designed for it.

Even if you go the cutting them out route, you really need a good bench and vise, as it is important to hold the fork or frame very steady while you are cutting. I have a steering tube vise I use for securing forks.

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