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Old 05-08-17, 07:25 AM
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Okay, I corresponded with ms. Barbara this weekend regarding the pump peg and tow sets of bottle bosses on an '82 year model Prestige. She told me that the bosses were customer requests for the American market, and the pump peg was the same, either located on the top tube backwards the saddle post clamp, or on the head tube (as mine is situated.) Pictures from bikes made during 1982, and from their 1982 catalogue were attached to Barbara's email. If I could figure out how to attach things here I would, its beyond my feeble abilities to do this right now it seems.

I am not pursuing the date of fabrication any more, no real issue to me. I appreciate the input here, and from Tommasini Cicli. I have learned a great deal about these bikes, and have been awed that folks here and at Tommasini took the time to answer my questions. All without anyone beating their chest, or being an ass about things, amazing times were are living in.

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Hey Bill,

I'd be real interested to see those catalog pics if you could post them. I think mine is from around '82 but have never been able to really nail it down. If you have technical hiccups, PM me and I can try to help or you can email me and I'll try to post it for you.
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Originally Posted by Spaghetti Legs
Hey Bill,

I'd be real interested to see those catalog pics if you could post them. I think mine is from around '82 but have never been able to really nail it down. If you have technical hiccups, PM me and I can try to help or you can email me and I'll try to post it for you.
I suspect it's this catalog, the Bulgier9A image that @T-Mar has ID'd as being from 1982-1984 from the FD braze on and the older style graphics visible.



Doesn't your Tommasini have the graphics that were introduced in 1985, with the swoops and the vertical font "Tommasini" on the seat tube. Along with very unusual internal cable routing, and a "Professional" decal?
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Working on posting the three pics now, plenty of empty time waiting in an ER waiting room. My Mom is possibly in CHF, everyone else had meetings this afternoon, so I am pulling duty alone. I need to keep my mind occupied on pleasant topics somehow.

Its only three pics attached, the email got corrupted somehow. I scanned for viruses JIC. Please bare with me while I make an attempt at this.

It isn't a Bulgier file, and it turned out its Thomas-Tommasini in the pics. I think the translation software may be sketchy in its details and language nuances. I doubt that English is Barbara's 1st language but she is very pleasant in all our correspondence. If these help anyone that is super, I thought there were three more pics to be honest. But, it was 4:45 when I checked my email this morning. Sleep is in short supply after last Tuesday's waltz with the Shepard ended badly.
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Originally Posted by qcpmsame
Working on posting the three pics now, plenty of empty time waiting in an ER waiting room. My Mom is possibly in CHF, everyone else had meetings this afternoon, so I am pulling duty alone. I need to keep my mind occupied on pleasant topics somehow.

Its only three pics attached, the email got corrupted somehow. I scanned for viruses JIC. Please bare with me while I make an attempt at this.

It isn't a Bulgier file, and it turned out its Thomas-Tommasini in the pics. I think the translation software may be sketchy in its details and language nuances. I doubt that English is Barbara's 1st language but she is very pleasant in all our correspondence. If these help anyone that is super, I thought there were three more pics to be honest. But, it was 4:45 when I checked my email this morning. Sleep is in short supply after last Tuesday's waltz with the Shepard ended badly.
Umm, that's from 1972, not 1982. Anyway, it would seem to indicate that pump pegs were indeed put on Tommasinis prior to 1985-86, though if Irio were doing it fairly commonly, why would it have been noteworthy enough to go into a bike magazine article that he was adding them to US import bikes?
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Originally Posted by qcpmsame
Working on posting the three pics now, plenty of empty time waiting in an ER waiting room. My Mom is possibly in CHF, everyone else had meetings this afternoon, so I am pulling duty alone. I need to keep my mind occupied on pleasant topics somehow.

Its only three pics attached, the email got corrupted somehow. I scanned for viruses JIC. Please bare with me while I make an attempt at this.

It isn't a Bulgier file, and it turned out its Thomas-Tommasini in the pics. I think the translation software may be sketchy in its details and language nuances. I doubt that English is Barbara's 1st language but she is very pleasant in all our correspondence. If these help anyone that is super, I thought there were three more pics to be honest. But, it was 4:45 when I checked my email this morning. Sleep is in short supply after last Tuesday's waltz with the Shepard ended badly.
Hope your mom gets better.
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Kevin, yeppers, I knew the Bulgiers pics were not the year, got distracted during my post. The article that was referenced earlier is interesting, Barbara asked for it to be emailed to her. No one there can recall one during that period.

Sloar, et al My mom is doing much better now. Not CHF this time, only a sligt pulmonary fluid build up. Headed home now thankfully. Appreciate the thoughts guys!
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Originally Posted by qcpmsame
Kevin, yeppers, I knew the Bulgiers pics were not the year, got distracted during my post. The article that was referenced earlier is interesting, Barbara asked for it to be emailed to her. No one there can recall one during that period.

Sloar, et al My mom is doing much better now. Not CHF this time, only a sligt pulmonary fluid build up. Headed home now thankfully. Appreciate the thoughts guys!
Glad to hear she's doing better. Its nice that I can officially post in this thread, my Tommasini should be here Wednesday.
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Good news that Sloar, I think you'll like it. As long as it fits its a great geometry set up. Enjoy my friend.

Thanks again for the kind thoughts. She is back in her retirement community safe and sound now.
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My Tommasini finally came in today. In the ebay pics it looked like there was big rust spots under the toptube, ended up being clumps of grease. Its actually in better condition than expected, except some rust spots on the forks but nothing I can't live with. I was also planning on swapping out the Dura Ace with Super Record, but I might keep the Dura Ace since its in great condition. I putting a shorter stem and narrower bars on it, along with a new saddle and tires. I think this will clean up nice.


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Just FYi,
The rear brake cable on my Tommasini doesn't have an internal guide in the top tube. If you pull the housing, make sure that you have a string tied to the end of the old housing for the new replacement housing.
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Originally Posted by sloar
My Tommasini finally came in today. In the ebay pics it looked like there was big rust spots under the toptube, ended up being clumps of grease. Its actually in better condition than expected, except some rust spots on the forks but nothing I can't live with. I was also planning on swapping out the Dura Ace with Super Record, but I might keep the Dura Ace since its in great condition. I putting a shorter stem and narrower bars on it, along with a new saddle and tires. I think this will clean up nice.
It's always nice to be pleasantly surprised. I like the blue, and somehow a blue Tommasini seems to fit better with Dura Ace. Quite handsome. Let us know whats stamped on the BB shell.
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sloar, that color looks like mine. Very nice bike!
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Looks like 8T US
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Now that Tommasini has announced their 60th anniversary bike, I can finally finish my story of my bike fitting at the factory. When I was taking the tour I was shown this new frame and was told I was the first person outside the factory to see it. Upon seeing the paint in person I asked if they could paint my tecno that color. At first they said no, and I responded "why did you show me this then"!! I was joking of course but they said they would paint my bike like the 60th! Here is the link to check it out.

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Nice looking Tommi sloar, the blue looks sharp and crisp. Its one nice looking Italian lady, I'm pretty sure that the Super Prestige will be taught and stiff with the SLX tubing and the frame' geometry.

I have seen a few Supers built with either Dura Ace or Super Record, as well as the C-Record group components on websites of forums. I say its your ride so what components you choose is fine, regardless of what some might say. I am a die hard Campy fanboy but the Dura Ace parts have a truly nice precision look to them, more of an elegantly engineered and finished to a high level. You'd probably find Dura Ace to be a really smooth shifting action.

Have a great time with deciding what components to ride on.

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Nice looking Tommi sloar, the blue looks sharp and crisp. Its one nice looking Italian lady, I'm pretty sure that the Super Prestige will be taught and stiff with the SLX tubing and the frame' geometry.

I have seen a few Supers built with either Dura Ace or Super Record, as well as the C-Record group components on websites of forums. I say its your ride so what components you choose is fine, regardless of what some might say. I am a die hard Campy fanboy but the Dura Ace parts have a truly nice precision look to them, more of an elegantly engineered and finished to a high level. You'd probably find Dura Ace to be a really smooth shifting action.

Have a great time with deciding what components to ride on.

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I made a deal with a friend, he really wants the DA. So where doing an even swap for Super Record. I don't need brake levers so he's throwing in a Campy seat post.
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Looks good. Take it for a spin yet?
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Looks good. Take it for a spin yet?
Nope, its up here at work with me and I don't have an air pump. I went ahead and stripped it down for a well deserved cleaning. Hopefully I can do the parts swap this weekend and get it out on the road.
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I made a deal with a friend, he really wants the DA. So where doing an even swap for Super Record. I don't need brake levers so he's throwing in a Campy seat post.
Sounds sweet Sloar, should be a true Italian build with an SR group. You're fortunate to be getting a package trade rather than having to get each component and watch your budget. And, complete groups break the bank sometimes. Its going to be great watching this one come together.

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Originally Posted by Secret Squirrel
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The rear brake cable on my Tommasini doesn't have an internal guide in the top tube. If you pull the housing, make sure that you have a string tied to the end of the old housing for the new replacement housing.
I like to turn the frame upside down, then run the knob end of a shift cable through. The weight of the knob will fall into the hole and come out. Then I just thread the housing through and pull the shift cable out. Works pretty well.
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Originally Posted by Kevindale
Umm, that's from 1972, not 1982. Anyway, it would seem to indicate that pump pegs were indeed put on Tommasinis prior to 1985-86, though if Irio were doing it fairly commonly, why would it have been noteworthy enough to go into a bike magazine article that he was adding them to US import bikes?
@Kevindale I'm kind of dense, (as you can tell/probably already had figured out,) it took me this long to realize what you referenced about the date on the Thomas pictured. Barbara addressed that, she was using this bike as an example to the pump peg being present prior to 1986. That will teach me to not proof what I am posting, wait, it probably won't even phase my befuddled brain.

Man, I sure hope that I can remember where I put my head last night, I mortally hate getting to the office without it in place.
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Originally Posted by sloar
Looks like 8T US
I wonder if it's not '87 US', which would fit with other's I've seen of similar vintage.

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Now that Tommasini has announced their 60th anniversary bike, I can finally finish my story of my bike fitting at the factory. When I was taking the tour I was shown this new frame and was told I was the first person outside the factory to see it. Upon seeing the paint in person I asked if they could paint my tecno that color. At first they said no, and I responded "why did you show me this then"!! I was joking of course but they said they would paint my bike like the 60th! Here is the link to check it out.

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Wow, that's beautiful paint! "Velocromatoblue"? Is that their version of chromovelato? And the new Prestige is 'Hyper-Vintage'! I don't know what that means, but it is definitely hyper-classic, especially with that beautiful seat lug.
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The frame is stunning in person.
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Originally Posted by Kevindale
I wonder if it's not '87 US', which would fit with other's I've seen of similar vintage...
It's certainly around that time frame. According to Wm. Lewis advertisments, the SLX (Super Prestige) model was new for 1985, so it should be no older than that. If we assume it's a standard USA market model based on the S/N suffix, then the presence of a pump peg would make it no earlier than 1986. It still uses the old SL fork decal, so that should make it no later than 1987, possibly 1988, if Tommasini was not diligent in rotating stock.
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