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Suggestions for WIDE tubulars with butyl tubes?

Old 04-05-12, 06:05 PM
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Suggestions for WIDE tubulars with butyl tubes?

Title basically says it all. I would like to use a nice tubular wheelset I have (HF Normany Luxe Competition hubs/Mavic Monthlery rims) on my UE-8. I have lots of clearance, and want a cushy ride, so I'm thinking at least 28mm, preferably bigger. However, I don't want the hassle of constantly pumping up latex tubes. I've considered cross tubs, but they are pricey and I worry about prematurely wearing out the rubber since I will primarily be using the bike on paved roads. Last but not least, must have tan sidewalls. Any suggestions?
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Challenge Grifo work dandy, look great, roll quiet, and are reasonably priced to boot.
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Thanks, Capt'n. Those look like they may fit the bill. Price point is good, too. No other suggestions, anyone?
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There are not a lot of choice with a "road" tread. I also include the diamond-only cross tread.

27mm
Dugast Paris Roubaix - $120-$160
FMB Paris Roubaix - $110-$160
Challenge Paris Roubaix - $90

28mm
Tufo Diamond - $75, hard to find, red tread on tan sidewall, there is a 30mm but I can't find any

30, 32 and 34mm
Dugast Pipistrello - $90, hard to find the 34mm, black on tan or white on tan

That's it. The only other large tubulars are knobby cross tires.
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I've been running those 27 Dugast PR's on gravel lately and they are heaven. For l'Eroica lately I have run reinforced Schwalbe 25 team-only prototypes with an extra thick rubber layer. I don't want to have to find a board to knock on, but I'll just say they've been reliable. Maybe are on the market by now...
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Tufo's are great for holding air.
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I'm using 28mm Tufo Diamonds. They have tan sidewalls and black treads. They hold air forever.

Use the Tufo Extreme tape.

Same wheels as yours.


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How well do those tufo diamond cross tires roll on pavement/hardpack compared to a fancypants road tire like the Challenge tires? Comparably, or are they slow?
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They're slow, but so am I.
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I tried a few diamond treads and found them rather slow. I use and like the Challenge Paris Roubaix in 27 mm, and they are fantastic. I can only imagine the Dugast and FMBs would be even nicer.

But you asked for butyl, and the Challenges are latex. I'd expect that the Dugast and FMBs are also latex.
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The diamond tread wears quick on pavement. When they are bald, the Tufos are still slow. I got a smoking deal on 3, 27mm Dugasts. Fast, durable and ride like butter. I'd recommend those in a heartbeat over the Tufos.

And Road Fan is correct, only the Tufos have butyl tubes.
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Thanks everyone. Good info & some options to consider.
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