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Help with identification of bike with serial number 64X76 stamped on drop out?

Old 04-18-12, 12:12 PM
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Help with identification of bike with serial number 64X76 stamped on drop out?

Hi i posted recently about an old frame i had bought that was marked as a Merlin but didn't seem to be one. I have found a frame number on the rear drop out which is: 64X76

I have pasted the other details i put in the previous post and added some photos although they are quite small.

Any help would be brilliant!

Cheers

Ross

Hi, i am trying to find out more about this bike. I bought it recently and was advertised as a vintage Merlin with the Bob Jackson Merlin Decals.

It is a 24" frame.

It has Chater Lea axel and headset, a Williams crank set and Merlin Marsh pre war handle bars. I'm not sure what the stem is but someone has drilled through it. Also came with Mafac brakes and Campag wheels and derailour. It has 2 grease nipples on the BB and 2 on the head tube. I was told that the forks are quite an unusual shape and the chainstay is also quite fat at the chain ring end.

From looking around it also looks like Chater Lea drop outs, mud guard attachments and pump peg braze ons (on down tube). I also think the lugs look like chater lea but i don't know how to confirm this.

The number 102 is also stamped on the bottom of the BB.

I emailed Bob Jackson and they told me the 102 was probably a re spray number although it is stamped in and they said the number on the steering column was not one of theirs. I asked if it could be an original Merlin but he thought it was just resprayed as one.

I would love some help in identifying the frame.

cheers,
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Old 04-18-12, 12:49 PM
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You may want to check this site. It looks like it may be a Merlin to me based on what I see on that site, though not the American company producing Merlin bikes. Looks like there was an older company producing bikes under that name. You may also want to see this thread. This is one of the things linked to in that thread.

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Old 04-18-12, 12:59 PM
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Hi yeah i thought it was a Merlin and does look similar. Bob Jackson who own the name have told me it isn't but there was a mistake in the frame number and waiting to hear if the new one makes more sense to them.

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Originally Posted by Rossco76 View Post
Hi yeah i thought it was a Merlin and does look similar. Bob Jackson who own the name have told me it isn't but there was a mistake in the frame number and waiting to hear if the new one makes more sense to them.

Cheers
Any joy on tracking the Merlin serial number? My own Merlin is pre-war with a straight numeric serial number on the RH rear dropout. Your frame has several pre-war features such as the head clip, the mudguard eyes and the seat-lug to seat-stay joints. The frame lugs however look post-war. The original Merlin company tended to mount the tecalemit headset grease/oil nipple on the front of the top head lug, and by 1940 had moved the pump lugs from the down tube to the seat tube, and stopped using traditional mudguard eyes. Not sure where that leaves you, but Merlin had a reputation for building frames to customers' own requirements so it could still easily be a Merlin. Yours could possibly be from the period after the name was sold to Adam Hill, and before Bob Jackson bought the name, I've no information on that era.

All the best with your research.
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