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dbakl 05-02-12 08:01 PM

Galmozzi?
 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/GALMOZZI-Cam...ht_8162wt_1282

iab 05-02-12 08:47 PM

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNj...!)P!~~60_3.JPG

753proguy 05-02-12 10:17 PM

Yup.

unworthy1 05-02-12 11:02 PM

Beauty!
too rich for my budget, though...

Citoyen du Monde 05-03-12 12:55 AM

look at the front derailleur!!

Italuminium 05-03-12 04:30 AM

Well hello hello, that's an amazing bike. Were did the levers go?

KonAaron Snake 05-03-12 05:21 AM

Whoever buys this had better hope I don't know where they live. WOW

mrjav 05-03-12 05:27 AM

Wow... where did that one come from? Great stuff, my size, no room in the garage and thank goodness it's a bit rich for me too!

repechage 05-03-12 06:27 AM


Originally Posted by Citoyen du Monde (Post 14174435)
look at the front derailleur!!

I noticed that, I have two that are the same in basic details but one has the cable stop closed (no cable slot) with a steel ferrel pressed in so securely that I decided to leave it. The ferrel is in there so securely that I just have a gut feeling that it was that way on purpose. Why Campagnolo abandoned the screw retention of the arms is lost to me other than saving costs. My very first road bike came with a circa 1972 unit that began to droop under the stress of shifting.


The bike is very handsome, this is one of the few Italian bikes I have seen that from a distance looks French, the colors and chrome just kind of speak that to me.

I should mention that there is no stopping on this bike, it was built to GO. Nor effective shifting either....

And someone had transferitis, way too many curiously placed graphics. But I still like it.

ColonelJLloyd 05-03-12 07:19 AM

Those lugs are hot! But, I never see a cool, old Italian bike in my size.

Picchio Special 05-03-12 07:25 AM


Originally Posted by Citoyen du Monde (Post 14174435)
look at the front derailleur!!

The new owner could sell the front derailleur and recover a big chunk of the purchase price of the bike.

KonAaron Snake 05-03-12 07:28 AM

This is in my size :(

Originally Posted by ColonelJLloyd (Post 14174995)
Those lugs are hot! But, I never see a cool, old Italian bike in my size.

I have to keep reminding myself...I have enough bikes, I won't ride it over what I have and I have a long while before riding anything.

ColonelJLloyd 05-03-12 07:29 AM

Ok, I'll bite. Tell me about this magical front derailleur, you Campy nerds.

Picchio Special 05-03-12 07:34 AM


Originally Posted by ColonelJLloyd (Post 14175030)
Ok, I'll bite. Tell me about this magical front derailleur, you Campy nerds.

It looks like the very first version, with not only the chromed arms and the built-in cable stop, but also - as repechage notes - the screw retention of the arms. It's the kind of thing Campagnolo collectors search high and low for to fill spots in their display cases - I don't believe it was made for very long. The kind of thing that, when one sells on ebay, someone here immediately posts the auction in a new thread and someone can't resist adding that "fool and his money" quote, people way overuse exclamation marks - you know the drill.

Citoyen du Monde 05-03-12 08:14 AM

The bike is cool but it is repainted and has completely mismatched components. The bike likely dates to the late 50's which would correspond with the derailleurs but that is about all. The brake calipers are likely newer than the bike. There are no brake levers (however Universal levers are not that difficult to come across at a reasonable price). The cranks are 10 years newer at least than the frame and derailleurs. The handlebars/stem in their own right are worth a good chunk of change since they have the highly sought after Bianchi engraving on the stem. I could readily see the handlebars alone go for a few hundred dollars, which would go a long way to cover a more appropriate handlebar/stem combo plus pay down the purchase price too. The paint is also redone. The saddle is somewhat newer, as is the seatpost. I would expect the seatpost to have the larger script and not the original small print of the late 50's early 60's. The rear derailleur also seems to be set up improperly (I don't believe the spring is tensioned and that at very least you would need reassemble properly and possibly there is a part missing).

All told, notwithstanding the "valuable" front derailleur, the handlebars/stem and the added large flange hubs, I don't see there being any financial logic to the purchase. Were the paint to still be original, or even a good repaint, then it would become more fathomable.

dbakl 05-03-12 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by Citoyen du Monde (Post 14175223)
The bike is cool but it is repainted and has completely mismatched components.

That was kinda my thought...

repechage 05-03-12 09:37 AM


Originally Posted by Citoyen du Monde (Post 14175223)
...
All told, notwithstanding the "valuable" front derailleur, the handlebars/stem and the added large flange hubs, I don't see there being any financial logic to the purchase. Were the paint to still be original, or even a good repaint, then it would become more fathomable.

True, but the lug work is handsome, and I also think it was built earlier than the majority of the components.

Catnap 05-03-12 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by repechage (Post 14175615)
True, but the lug work is handsome, and I also think it was built earlier than the majority of the components.

it looks very similar to Rene Herse lugs.

Also, there's a nicer-looking Galmozzi on eBay right now at half the price:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Galmozzi-Lat...item256fd9bb15

KonAaron Snake 05-03-12 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by Catnap (Post 14175852)
it looks very similar to Rene Herse lugs.

Also, there's a nicer-looking Galmozzi on eBay right now at half the price:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Galmozzi-Lat...item256fd9bb15

I'll bet you just gave the seller a few extra dollars...I'd bid if I were in the market.

Picchio Special 05-03-12 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake (Post 14176026)
I'll bet you just gave the seller a few extra dollars...I'd bid if I were in the market.

I was considering - but am saving my money for something else - plus, it's definitely too small, though not by a ton. The seller may lose some money via people tkinking he's saying that the seat tube is dented, when it is in fact the seatpost, as stated.

Citoyen du Monde 05-03-12 07:36 PM

The second Galmozzi is VERY nice and well worth bidding on if it fits. It might well be all original too (apart from Magni branded front hub)

iab 05-03-12 07:40 PM

The second one is being sold by gridplan. For those who don't know him he is a great guy and will make everything right with any sale.

repechage 05-03-12 09:18 PM

The one being sold by 24x7 if one looks closely has the land and small hole above the rear derailleur mount for the Sportsman derailleur spring, I usually associate this with 1963 or a bit earlier. Not the 50's. What say you guys?

Otis 05-03-12 11:58 PM


Originally Posted by repechage (Post 14178756)
The one being sold by 24x7 if one looks closely has the land and small hole above the rear derailleur mount for the Sportsman derailleur spring, I usually associate this with 1963 or a bit earlier. Not the 50's. What say you guys?

I always thought those drops were from the very late 50's? I had a Legnano Roma that was a '59 or '60 that had them. I think the Galmozzi would be from the very late 50's to early 60's. Anyway, looks like I bought it. I've always wanted one with that lug set.

Picchio Special 05-04-12 04:52 AM


Originally Posted by Otis (Post 14179201)
I always thought those drops were from the very late 50's? I had a Legnano Roma that was a '59 or '60 that had them. I think the Galmozzi would be from the very late 50's to early 60's. Anyway, looks like I bought it. I've always wanted one with that lug set.

Congratulations! If it had been just a cm or so bigger, it would have been on my radar.


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