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Old 05-25-12, 06:58 PM
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Interesting Colnago...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1971-COLNAGO...#ht_540wt_1185
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Old 05-25-12, 08:30 PM
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Sure is interesting - because it's not a Colnago. We ID'd the Belgian maker which used a clover-motif similar to Colnago's quite some time back; damned if I can remember the maker now. Check out the clovers in the fork crown. Dead-giveaway that the fork is not Colnago. I think someone took a Dremel to the other cutouts on the frame, too - I know from personal experience it can be done. Seatstay cap isn't right, nor are the head lugs or the BB shell cutout.

It's just all wrong. Seller is convinced it's a Colnago - and it appears a prospective buyer or maybe two are also convinced. Caveat Emptor

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The name I recall (and have used) is Cornelo...but this frame looks different in many respects to the typical Cornelo (if there is such a thing), so may be yet another animal. I've never seen a Colnago or a typical fake 'Nago that used that forkcrown before, and the steerer sure seems to have NO Columbus rifling. Another detail is the mark on the BB shell: looks like the Gargette Bros. oval logo...again an oddity for any Colnago or Fake-nago.
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Old 05-25-12, 10:38 PM
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The Cloverleaf cut out is not unique to Colnago... the cloverleaf is part of a card suit motif which is present on mine and many Ron Cooper bicycles.
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Originally Posted by unworthy1 View Post
Another detail is the mark on the BB shell: looks like the Gargette Bros. oval logo...again an oddity for any Colnago or Fake-nago.
Yep - I'd thought of that, too. Never seen a Colnago with that logo on the shell, either.

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Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver View Post
The Cloverleaf cut out is not unique to Colnago...
True, that. Colnago's specific stylization of the cloverleaf is, however, fairly unique. Earlier BB shell cutouts had a clover with a pointed bottom, later cutouts were flat-bottomed. None of them had the sharp transitions between lobes featured in the BB shell cutout of the auction frameset. Earlier lug cutouts were large and "fluffy" while later ones were smaller and sharper.

The ones on this frame look to have originally been done as on the fork crown, and modified prior to the repaint. It's fairly easy to do, even on an already-assembled frame. I extensively modded the cutouts on my Alpina, for example.

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Unless the seller wants to claim that the brazeons were added when it was repainted, that's not a 1971 either. In 1971, everything was held on with clips since brazeons were thought to weaken the frame due to excessive heat.
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Unless ignorance is truly bliss, the new owner is going to be mighty disappointed when he opens the shipping carton.

Sold for $646 plus $75 shipping. Gads.

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