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Modern saddles similar to Brooks B17

Old 05-29-12, 10:36 AM
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My favorite modern saddles were all discontinued a couple decades ago.
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Old 05-29-12, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by due ruote View Post
My favorite modern saddles were all discontinued a couple decades ago.
In the Information Age, eventually everyone gets what he wants. Might require a little persistence, however. I've bought half a dozen of those Avatars in my width, and I still have my auto-search turned on. I've paid even a little more than the original retail for a NOS one, but my Max bid was still ready to go much, much higher.

Do a search on Ebay!
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Old 05-29-12, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by calamarichris View Post
In the Information Age, eventually everyone gets what he wants. Might require a little persistence, however. I've bought half a dozen of those Avatars in my width, and I still have my auto-search turned on. I've paid even a little more than the original retail for a NOS one, but my Max bid was still ready to go much, much higher.

Do a search on Ebay!
Yes, that works. I have what I need/want, just trying to keep it vintage or snarky, take your pick. btw what I like are Concor and Flite. Yes, I know the Concor was re-issued, but it just doesn't seem quite the same to me.

More on topic - I also like the Brooks Swift quite a lot, maybe even more than the others I mentioned.

I'm slightly surprised that the OP's saddle is wearing out so fast, at least if it really was one major rain event and no other mal-treatment. People tour for thousands of miles on B-17's and I have to believe they get rained on occasionally.
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Old 05-29-12, 12:32 PM
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I have the gyes knockoff of the brooks swift but with a cutout. It's been really good to me so far, but given that it felt broken in right out of the gate (well after heating it and then soaking in obenhauf's) makes me wonder if it's going to last as long as a brooks.
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Old 05-29-12, 01:59 PM
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I'm slightly surprised that the OP's saddle is wearing out so fast, at least if it really was one major rain event and no other mal-treatment. People tour for thousands of miles on B-17's and I have to believe they get rained on occasionally.

My thoughts too. It was just one ride, but was several hours of a downpour. I didn't mention it earlier, but one side is sagging more than the other. I'll post up a pic later.
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Old 05-29-12, 05:33 PM
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People tour for thousands of miles on B-17's and I have to believe they get rained on occasionally.
True, but your bike doesn't have fenders so water was being kicked up under the saddle, most riders will cover the saddle and apply treatment to help water proof it prior to using it. All three things would have greatly extended the life of the saddle.
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Old 05-29-12, 05:39 PM
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My Dad has a B17 for the past 20 years. He looks after it with regular applications of Dubbins on the rear and proofide on the top. I can't understand anyone getting less then ten years use out of them. The are as tough as old boots.

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Here's a picture that shows the main issue. This side is lower than the other and even with
tensioning/lacing, the area is depressed enough that the rivets are, uh,
interfering. Should it have the hammock shape this early in it's life?


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Old 05-29-12, 09:45 PM
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Looks to be from riding it wet or too much proofhide or an application of a leather conditonioner such as mink oil which would breakdown the fibers. That's just amazing!
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I prefer Brooks Team Pro
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I have found that the leather thickness varies on Brooks saddles, which could account for the issues you are having. I bought two B17s Champion Specials about the same time, one black and the other honey. The black one had noticeably thinner leather and broke in similar to yours -- that is, it dimpled so much toward the back that the rivets were uncomfortable. I sold the black saddle but kept the honey one, which is very comfortable and never dimpled like the black one.
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Just an update, I bought a Specialized Toupe in 155mm width and it seems to be a good match.
My feeling has always been that the B17 is comfy due to the width more than anything.
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