Akisu fork on non-Nottingham Raleigh 3-speed?
Was working on one of my restorations and noticed that the fork on this Raleigh 3-speed has Akisu stamped on the steer tube. The fork is definitely the original fork on this bike as it is color-matched and the R decals on the fork match the decals on the rest of the frame. The Seatpost says "Raleigh Carbon-Steel Tubing" and other than a couple of 3-speed and Raleigh decals there is no other sign as to country of origin. The Headbadge has the typical XXXXXXXXX where Nottingham England would be on a Nottingham-built bike.
The lugwork and paint is gorgeous on both the frame, and the fork. There is even some VERY well-done gold detail in the lugwork over the teal-metallic paint. The fenders & chainguard are also very, very nice. The finish is about 6 orders of magnitude better than Nottingham bikes (OK, I exagerate -probably only about 3 or 4 orders of magnitude.) The only flaw in the finish is some grease-staining that for some reason wouldn't even polish out with scratch-X. Must have been some toxic grease! Other than being a non-Nottingham bike I don't know much else but this is shaping up to be a very nice restoration for someone. The hub is marked 80 1 so I'm assuming this bike was a USA import in 1980/81 if the wheel is original. My question is: Did Raleigh ever have frames/forks/fenders/etc made in Japan or was this some weird fluke of a bike made in Taiwan where they got behind making forks and bought a load of them from Akisu. Did Akisu make forks in Taiwan for a while in the early 80's? I'm curious. Never seen this before. I assumed this was a Taiwan Raleigh but the Akisu marking sort of makes me wonder. Pics will follow as soon as they get done downloading. |
What's the serial number?
-Kurt |
It's stamped brightly and clearly on the BB (like a boss) by someone who actually cared about it being legible.
M00637XXX -I left the last 3 numbers off because I'm weird like that. I"ll PM you the rest |
Made in Malaysia.
-Kurt |
Yep, I've seen these before. They don't look anything like a Nottingham Sports.
There's a few of them that have wound up in the States; enough so that I suspect that they were regularly imported when they were new. -Kurt |
Yeah, the dead give-away on them is the XXXXXXXX on the headbadge, and the fact that the tubes are not parallel like the Nottingham-bikes. It's probably stonger to have more of a triangle-shape to the two tubes as they come off the head-tube and move toward the lugs on the seat tube.
Also the lack of the heron-crank -although this crank is actually a replacement as the crank that came with it was pretty mangled and twisted. Working bikes charged me $15 for this one. It would have been nice to find a heron-crank but after digging for 1/2 hour through the cottered cranksets I only found 2 single-chainwheel ones and neither was a heron chainwheel. I had to fudge a little on the axle too as I couldn't find one exactly right. It's a bit too long on the non-drive side and a couple mm too wide between the races too -which should be obvious looking at the pics. Funny that a Malaysia-built bike has so much better fit & finish than the Nottingham ones. They were sure producing some crappy finishes by the end, weren't they? |
Originally Posted by Amesja
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Funny that a Malaysia-built bike has so much better fit & finish than the Nottingham ones. They were sure producing some crappy finishes by the end, weren't they?
With a 68mm BB though, it seems a shoe-in to put a 3-piece crankset on it - not really worth it to fiddle with a cottered job on a Japanese frame, don't you think? -Kurt |
Oh, and the rims are different too. They didn't mess around with the Raleigh-pattern rims and just put on typical flat chromed-steel ones.
As much as I like the Raleigh Sports design I can't help thinking that these Pacific-rim built versions from the late-70's/early-80's were actually better bikes. Put a new set of CR-18's on this bike and maybe some alloy bars and it'd be just as good as any dutch bike you could buy for $1k IMHO. Put an X-FDD dyno brake hub on it while you are at the wheel upgrade and it'd be a killer city/commuter bike for all weather. |
Originally Posted by cudak888
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I'm not surprised. Everything made after 1964 is suspect, in my book - even the TI transition frames are a bit of a let down in comparison to the Raleigh Industries production.
With a 68mm BB though, it seems a shoe-in to put a 3-piece crankset on it - not really worth it to fiddle with a cottered job on a Japanese frame, don't you think? -Kurt |
Originally Posted by Amesja
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While I completely agree with the first part the second statement is high blaspheme! Prepare for Cottered-Crank Jihad!!!!!
http://www.kurtkaminer.com/raleigh_coastersport_bdc.jpg Joking aside, I just realized that the Raleigh USA Sport is probably made by the same subcontractor, even though there are a few differences (fork crown, chainguard, seatstay ends). -Kurt |
With a modern alloy crankset, alloy bars, levers, stem, rims, brake-calipers -plus plastic fenders and chainguard I bet a bike like this would weigh-in with a pretty respectable number compared to many modern IGH bikes you can buy.
This frame is pretty nice and very light for a lugged steel frame. The rest of the bike, other than the rear hub, could well be jettisoned to build a lightweight step-through commuter. |
Originally Posted by Amesja
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With a modern alloy crankset, alloy bars, levers, stem, rims, brake-calipers -plus plastic fenders and chainguard I bet a bike like this would weigh-in with a pretty respectable number compared to many modern IGH bikes you can buy.
This frame is pretty nice and very light for a lugged steel frame. The rest of the bike, other than the rear hub, could well be jettisoned to build a lightweight step-through commuter. Come to think of it, does the Malaysian frame have enough clearance for 700C's if the fenders are mounted? -Kurt |
Originally Posted by Amesja
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While I completely agree with the first part the second statement is high blaspheme! Prepare for Cottered-Crank Jihad!!!!!
http://www.os2.dhs.org/~john/frankenbike/completed.jpg Of course, it was in major need of rehabilitation when I got it: http://www.os2.dhs.org/~john/sports-project.jpg |
JohnDThompson -what did you do with the 26tpi threaded BB? Did you reuse the cups and find the right square-taper bb axle or did you use one of those threadless Gran Cru VO things?
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I have a 1991 (I think) Bianchi Forza I purchased new. Always well taken care of. Any idea what it's worth?
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Originally Posted by Amesja
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what did you do with the 26tpi threaded BB? Did you reuse the cups and find the right square-taper bb axle or did you use one of those threadless Gran Cru VO things?
http://www.os2.dhs.org/~john/franken...22-spindle.jpg http://www.os2.dhs.org/~john/frankenbike/lockring.jpg |
Gee, that's purdy.
There is a place near me with boxes and drawers of used parts. I have a thread-pitch gauge and one of these days I'm going to dig through them and find a bunch of 26tpi cups. Every time I am missing one it's a big deal finding them. The last time I was there I got too busy digging through other bins (like the cottered-crank bins) and didn't get to the cups. I did find an old eggbeater pedal that I bought for a buck for spare parts and half of a Shorty 6 canti. I bought them both. Odds are that someday the other halves of those might end up floating to the tops of one of the MANY MANY bins... |
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Prepare for Cottered-Crank Jihad!!!!!
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