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Old 06-24-12, 09:55 AM
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Really disappointed. Is this bike road worthy or even repairable?

I was rebuilding the bottom bracket on this 1948 Raleigh Dawn Tourist when I noticed light in the bracket. I went looking for the source of the light and found this. I've washed this bike, gently gone over it with polishing compound, and then followed up with cleaner wax and completely missed this.

Is this something that can/needs to be repaired? Does it make the bike unsafe to ride?

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Looks like a goner to me, and I sure wouldn't ride it.
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Wall Art.
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i just lost my appetite.
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Couldn't pay me money to ride that :/ My condolences.
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A Raleigh frame predating the TI era will hold together even with that split in the tube. I'll bet you that half of the fellows above are thinking of 531 tubing with those "wall art" comments, because the tubing on these 1940's-1950's examples resemble cast iron and water pipe.

Nevertheless, it's the thought of knowing it's there that's the problem, and the fact that leaving it like that will put undue stress on the tube and cause damage - though slowly.

That said, see if you can hammer the bent bit of tube back into round through the bottom bracket. If you succeed, have someone tig - or mig - weld the hole shut. Also have the other dent filled with tig welds (I'd suggest brass, but you'll lose quite a bit more paint that way). File the tig welds smooth, repaint that area black, and forget about it for the next 100 years.

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It is repairable, but indeed not a good investment. I would look around for a replacement, or just put it back together and ride it till it breaks and keep looking for an alternate.
If/when it does crack the failure will not be catastrophic, other than perhaps stranding you away from home.
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I've repaired worse, I would weld it, paint it, then ride it with no worrys
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Originally Posted by repechage
It is repairable, but indeed not a good investment.
Not necessarily. A friend with a tig welder can make it a cheap repair. Might take some hammering, filing, and sweating, but I can think of worse.

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Originally Posted by cudak888
A Raleigh frame predating the TI era will hold together even with that split in the tube. I'll bet you that half of the fellows above are thinking of 531 tubing with those "wall art" comments, because the tubing on these 1940's-1950's examples resemble cast iron and water pipe.

Nevertheless, it's the thought of knowing it's there that's the problem, and the fact that leaving it like that will put undue stress on the tube and cause damage - though slowly.

That said, see if you can hammer the bent bit of tube back into round through the bottom bracket. If you succeed, have someone tig - or mig - weld the hole shut. Also have the other dent filled with tig welds (I'd suggest brass, but you'll lose quite a bit more paint that way). File the tig welds smooth, repaint that area black, and forget about it for the next 100 years.

-Kurt
I did gloss right over that...yeah OP I change my vote to rideable.
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That's somewhat of a relief. Thanks for the info.

I should have just showed it to Mrs. G1nko first. I read her some of the replies to the thread and she said "Let me see it." She takes one look and says "That's definitely weldable. I'll have the guys at work take a look and see if they can fix that for you tomorrow." So it may be fixed tomorrow and for free.

Sometimes it pays to have a wife who works in the galvanizing industry. All hail the Zinc Queen.
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Originally Posted by G1nko
Sometimes it pays to have a wife who works in the galvanizing industry. All hail the Zinc Queen.
I used to spray zinc on beams made for pier work...makes for a very heavy spray gun, a guy develops shoulder muscles very quick!
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Originally Posted by cudak888
Not necessarily. A friend with a tig welder can make it a cheap repair. Might take some hammering, filing, and sweating, but I can think of worse.

-Kurt
Plus its in a place where no one really looks. If it get's patched up so its solid but no so pretty it doesn't matter as it wont be visible.

I say, let your contracts patch it up as best they can then touch up the paint and build it up with a big chaingaurd as original
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