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Puget Pounder 06-25-12 01:34 PM

Veloflex Master 22
 
Has anyone used these tires? I'm looking at a set of the 700x22. Does anyone have an actual width on them?

Trying to find a nice set of gumwalls on a budget for my litespeed.

lowlife1975 06-25-12 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by Puget Pounder (Post 14403251)
Has anyone used these tires? I'm looking at a set of the 700x22. Does anyone have an actual width on them?

Trying to find a nice set of gumwalls on a budget for my litespeed.

they are awesome tires. i have the master 22s and the paves (which was what it was called previously.) both measure pretty much 22mm+ maybe a touch over. they feel as close to tubulars as any clincher tire i've ever tried. of course, not as rugged as say a gatorskin, but that's the tradeoff that you make for a nice supple ride. handmade in italy still. i don't think you'll be disappointed in veloflex. i've also tried the challenge criterium gum wall tires and they don't even come close to veloflex.

Puget Pounder 06-25-12 02:54 PM

Thanks for the information. I'm looking at a lightly used set right now. I'm going from a Michelin Krylion Carbon 23mm and was wondering if the change would be justified. I should try it out...

whatwolf 06-25-12 02:57 PM

Yeah, I have them on two bikes and like the ride a lot. I can measure when I get home if you like.

gomango 06-25-12 05:38 PM

Let's see here.

I use Pave's on my De Rosa Professional, Master 22's on my older Chris Kvale, and Master 23's on my new Chris Kvale.

If I remember, they run pretty close to listed sizes, but I'll dig the digital caliper out tomorrow when I am home and check.

The Pave came first and was replaced by the Master 22. Both were incredible tires for me.

Now the Master 23 is out and is a fantastic clincher. Feels like a decent tubular.

Here are the Veloflex sites for reference.

http://www.veloflextires.com/

http://www.veloflex.it/

Here's what the tires look like.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8028/7...73c6d4b4_o.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7227/7...6e223724_o.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7158/6...caa78169_o.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7174/6...8dbdc983_o.jpg

Flickr won't let me upload w/o changing permissions, so no look see at the Master 22 on a bike.

FWIW I recently sent a fairly long email to Veloflex expressing interest in a 700 x 25 and a 700 x 28.

Compared them to Challenge PRs. Maybe someday.

whatwolf 06-25-12 06:03 PM

Just measured one of my sets at 21.77 and the other at 21.9.

KonAaron Snake 06-25-12 06:13 PM

I could never look at that Kvale enough Grady!

Grady, BBM and the departed OFG all pushed me towards the Veloflex Masters and everything they said was true - it's an excellent, fast tire that rolls quite smoothly. I haven't even had major flatting issues with them. The place I think they really make their mark is performance in slippery conditions - the tread pattern is GRIPPY!

Overall, I think I like the Continental GP4000s SLIGHTLY more, though the Veloflex tires are lighter and roll a bit faster. I like the Continentals for flat protection and gravel/cobble stones a bit more.

rootboy 06-25-12 07:13 PM


Originally Posted by gomango (Post 14404372)

Damn nice bike.

gomango 06-25-12 08:38 PM

Thanks guys for the nice comments.

I've never owned this nice of a bicycle before.

Never.

Aaron, as for the 4000s tires, they are very nice.

I ran them on my Master Extra Light and my Master.

Very nice in corners, they would allow me to push harder than I usually dared.

I never flatted with them and they seemed to be decent tires for distances as well.

The only time they scared me was a long downhill run at about 35 miles an hour.

It was a little damp from rain the previous evening.

We were coming down a mile long hill and had a sweeping left turn near the bottom.

The back end broke loose and I did a drift all the way through.

I didn't lose it, but I got off the bike in Taylors Falls and almost puked.

All the guys I was riding with could say was, "way to go dude."

Scared to death I was.

I'll never forget that wild turn, but I suppose it could have happened on any tire.

Puget Pounder 06-25-12 10:25 PM

gomango, you have one of the classiest bikes on this forum. I desperately seek a lugged bike from a custom builder, but I only find Tig-Welded bikes :). The next project in the lineup in a Rodriguez 650B.

Anyways, thanks for the comments guys. The pair I was looking at was $35 for a pair, but I think I am going to want at least the 23s and probably the 25s.

gomango 06-25-12 10:32 PM


Originally Posted by Puget Pounder (Post 14405573)
gomango, you have one of the classiest bikes on this forum. I desperately seek a lugged bike from a custom builder, but I only find Tig-Welded bikes :). The next project in the lineup in a Rodriguez 650B.

Anyways, thanks for the comments guys. The pair I was looking at was $35 for a pair, but I think I am going to want at least the 23s and probably the 25s.


Thanks so much!

The Rodriguez should be awesome as well.

Were the $35 pair Veloflex tires?

New or used?

Puget Pounder 06-25-12 10:43 PM


Originally Posted by gomango (Post 14405601)
Thanks so much!

The Rodriguez should be awesome as well.

Were the $35 pair Veloflex tires?

New or used?

Lightly used for 2 races

gomango 06-25-12 11:05 PM


Originally Posted by Puget Pounder (Post 14405618)
Lightly used for 2 races

If you don't need them, may I acquire them?

Puget Pounder 06-25-12 11:36 PM


Originally Posted by gomango (Post 14405662)
If you don't need them, may I acquire them?

I will try and snag them for you and let you know.

gomango 06-26-12 04:53 AM


Originally Posted by Puget Pounder (Post 14405694)
I will try and snag them for you and let you know.

Thanks so much.

I'd love to have them!

We can go to pms so we don't wreck this thread.

ColonelJLloyd 06-26-12 07:11 AM


Originally Posted by gomango (Post 14404372)
FWIW I recently sent a fairly long email to Veloflex expressing interest in a 700 x 25 and a 700 x 28.

I'll be interested in the latter. At 185 pounds, I just don't want to use a 22mm or 23mm tire on the roads I ride.

gomango 06-26-12 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by ColonelJLloyd (Post 14406239)
I'll be interested in the latter. At 185 pounds, I just don't want to use a 22mm or 23mm tire on the roads I ride.

I hear you.

The roads here in St. Paul and Mpls. are beyond awful.

Costs to repair and our seasons do not equate to high quality thoroughfares.

I'd be most interested in the 700 x 25 option, as none of my road bicycles have enough clearance in the stays.

I had 700 x 28 Challenge PRs on my Hollands, but as the tires wear, they tend to get wider. So no go with that at this point.

I have an older unbuilt Goodrich frameset that may be just the ticket for wider rubber in the meantime.

Yep, a nice 700 x 25 Veloflex Master would be perfect!

KonAaron Snake 06-26-12 08:16 AM

Gomango - what size is that Goodrich...I ask purely out of curiosity :innocent:

gomango 06-26-12 08:37 AM


Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake (Post 14406466)
Gomango - what size is that Goodrich...I ask purely out of curiosity :innocent:

58 cm tt and 59 ctt st.

Like it was built for me. :)

Hanging on a hook and will get built eventually.

Sport tourer!

Has eyelets, although the previous owner wasn't using it for that purpose.

He was using it to collect cobwebs, just like me.

As I mentioned a few years ago, I would like to own or try bikes from Chris Kvale, Dave Anderson, Terry Osell, Curt Goodrich, Mark Stonich, Erik Noren, and of course Vincent Dominguez.

Heck, I had Capricorn on the list till he moved to Oregon. Nothing against Oregon, I am trying to buy local talent when possible.

I am slowly wading through the builders and keep a very close eye on our local CL for deals.

Our Blaine bike swap has been very good to me as well.

In the case of the Goodrich, I had to drive to Des Moines to pick it up.

The bike had a complete DA 7700 gruppo and nice set of DA/Open Pros.

Stripped the bike pronto and sold everything right down to the handlebars on our local racing board.

This is the right way to acquire nice framesets on the cheap in my opinion.

I am about halfway through the list at this point, but Mrs. Gomango has had it with the bike warehouse.

In her defense, she has been incredibly patient until recently. :)

KonAaron Snake 06-26-12 08:44 AM

:(

I was hoping smaller ;)

One of these days I'd like the right Spectrum. A Kirk would be next on my list with Mooney and Weigle targets as well.

As much as I'm excited about this Vanilla, part of me was really holding out for a Sachs cyclocross bike.

gomango 06-26-12 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake (Post 14406606)
:( I was hoping smaller ;)

For gosh sakes, you really have to heal up and come for a visit.

We could have some real bike adventures here and I'd give you a complete tour of the bike collection.

I don't put everything up on the Flickr, that's for sure.

Casey (Thirdgenbird) had a nice visit recently and got to see some of the bikes.

As for the Goodrich, there are chances locally when you get to know a few people.

I'll keep my ears peeled for a 56cm for you!

The frameset I'd really go nuts over is a Match, built by Curt Goodrich.

Red with white lettering. I've only seen one in my entire life.

1 Lugnut 06-26-12 09:10 AM


Originally Posted by gomango (Post 14404372)

... :thumb: Now that there is 'beauty to my eyes'. Nice!

KonAaron Snake 06-26-12 09:11 AM


Originally Posted by 1 Lugnut (Post 14406737)
... :thumb: Now that there is 'beauty to my eyes'. Nice!

If I could pick a bike from a member here...this would be one I'd consider.

gomango 06-26-12 09:47 AM

Thanks again everyone.

I'll say it again, I have a few nice bicycles, but this one wraps it all up for me.

If the electrical inspector arrives soon, I can get out for a nice long ride on her today.

Remodeling woes, don't you know.

1 Lugnut 09-02-12 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by whatwolf (Post 14404491)
Just measured one of my sets at 21.77 and the other at 21.9.

Diggin up an old thread here on Veloflex tires. My Michelin's are on the way out & I'd like to replace them w/ a set of Veloflex Clichers. Would Master 22's fit on Mavic MA-2 rims? I measured the outside width of the rim & it reads 20.5mm. Not sure of the inside width? Should of yesterday...as I had the tire off fixin' two flats. :( I only hope they'll ride as good as their tubulars...idyllic


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