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one half wuff 11-02-13 09:43 PM

Just finished up this 1988 trek 850. Here's the specs.

Started with a 1988 Trek 850 triple butted Tange frame that was broken at at the right rear drop out. A friend that's a certified oil-field welder repaired it and Glen Thompson spread the rear triangle to 135.

SRAM X9 derailleurs
Original Shimano brakes with 600 Shimano levers.
Origin 8 hubs and sun rims
SRT stem and SR seat post
Ritchey seat
Ichigear pista drop bars with cork wrap
Dia Compe bar end shifters

http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/a...psf576dc1a.jpg

http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps2af6ab62.jpg

http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps1655272b.jpg

http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/a...psf8e72eb4.jpg

Squeeze 11-02-13 11:18 PM

I'm just a wanna-be, I know, but I installed a set of Origin 8 drop bar ends last night and rode my '93 Raleigh for three hours today and am very impressed.

Eventually, I'll do a proper drop-bar conversion on this one.

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...ps08cf1c3b.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...ps4d310d05.jpg

striknein 11-03-13 12:12 AM

You should call that one the Spruce Goose.

wrk101 11-03-13 05:52 AM


Originally Posted by one half wuff (Post 16214398)
Just finished up this 1988 trek 850. Here's the specs.

Started with a 1988 Trek 850 triple butted Tange frame that was broken at at the right rear drop out. A friend that's a certified oil-field welder repaired it and Glen Thompson spread the rear triangle to 135.

SRAM X9 derailleurs
Original Shimano brakes with 600 Shimano levers.
Origin 8 hubs and sun rims
SRT stem and SR seat post
Ritchey seat
Ichigear pista drop bars with cork wrap
Dia Compe bar end shifters



http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps2af6ab62.jpg



That bike really came together well. Those early Treks were really nice.

Vonruden 11-03-13 06:37 AM


Originally Posted by wrk101 (Post 16214789)
That bike really came together well. Those early Treks were really nice.


Ditto, love the Stealth look.

due ruote 11-03-13 02:36 PM

+1 Nice job, one half wuff. What tires are those?

one half wuff 11-03-13 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by due ruote (Post 16215809)
+1 Nice job, one half wuff. What tires are those?




Those are 26 X 1 1/4" Forte from Performance Bike. I think they are their house brand. Not sure. I had bought them for street use on my old Gt outpost but took them off when I needed to convert the GT back to full time mtb use. They are actually pretty comfortable.

Paramount1973 11-03-13 06:47 PM


Originally Posted by Vonruden (Post 16212086)
This has become my favorite thread. Here is my first drop bar MTB project. So far I have a Brooks saddle, Shimano RX canty's, derailleurs and recently order Origin8 Gary Bars 2's and NOS Gen 1 Dura Ace bar end shifters. I'm worried that the bar ends wont be compatible?? More to come shortly.

http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/...psd4a3e266.jpg

That frame is certainly a good starting point.

Goosecheck 11-03-13 08:10 PM

One half wuff......NICE result! :thumb:

neo_pop_71 11-03-13 08:20 PM


Originally Posted by WNG (Post 16198570)

Hey WNG-

How are things? I'm looking forward to seeing what build you put together with the 20" ATX frame (and the Klein-esque colored Ross too). I have to ask, what tooth count are you running on your 1x__ set up? Seeing it in the "big, big" configuration is really working that derailleur. Does it shift well into that big cog?

As always, hang in there my friend and keep up with the bike builds!

Peace,

-D-

one half wuff 11-03-13 08:34 PM

Thank you guys for the thumbs up but I must confess that was my first go and the learning curve was rather steep. My experience level is not like yourself or Vonruden's consequently I am definitely in the "more error than trial" skill set. For example I learned a really good lesson about ChainWrap capacity of the short cage X9 derailleur. And that was one of many lessons learned but I had Huge Fun doing it.

one half wuff 11-03-13 08:36 PM

Love that frame, keep the Picts coming as you work.

neo_pop_71 11-03-13 08:38 PM


Originally Posted by Vonruden (Post 16212086)
This has become my favorite thread. Here is my first drop bar MTB project. So far I have a Brooks saddle, Shimano RX canty's, derailleurs and recently order Origin8 Gary Bars 2's and NOS Gen 1 Dura Ace bar end shifters. I'm worried that the bar ends wont be compatible?? More to come shortly.

http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/...psd4a3e266.jpg

Vonruden, you won't have any compatibility issue with those 1st gen. D.A. bar end shifters as long as you stay with the same cog specs for SIS. You could get more gearing in the back if you run them on friction as opposed to the indexed SIS setting. I just went through all this with an '86 "Deerhead" XT (6 speed) rear derailleur and a set of 8 speed brifters. I wanted to run the 13-32 6 speed freewheel that came with the "Deerhead" group, it hit most shifts at the extremes but jumped around with the 3/4 cog shifting. I installed a 7 speed Sachs freewheel and that was even worse than the previous I ordered a 13-32 8 speed freewheel, that nailed it! I needed to keep the index shifting with the brifters but I've done this many times before with bar end shifters and friction shifting, I've gotten away with an 8 speed set up using a 6 speed bar end shifter. You'll have to be patient and continue to push the set up to find the limits. I don't see why you couldn't get 8 or 9 speed shifting with the 1st gen D.A. bar ends on "friction" as long as you run a capable rear derailleur with the limit screws adjusted properly.

Good luck... have fun with promising frame... and keep us posted!

-D-

neo_pop_71 11-03-13 08:50 PM


Originally Posted by one half wuff (Post 16214398)
Just finished up this 1988 trek 850. Here's the specs.

Started with a 1988 Trek 850 triple butted Tange frame that was broken at at the right rear drop out. A friend that's a certified oil-field welder repaired it and Glen Thompson spread the rear triangle to 135.

SRAM X9 derailleurs
Original Shimano brakes with 600 Shimano levers.
Origin 8 hubs and sun rims
SRT stem and SR seat post
Ritchey seat
Ichigear pista drop bars with cork wrap
Dia Compe bar end shifters

http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/a...psf576dc1a.jpg

Really nice one half wuff! Say what you want about the leaning curve, your Trek is easily one of the nicest looking conversions in this thread! Great call going with the Ichigear Pista bar, I never would have considered that. My buddy ran a Soma Major Taylor on his first dirt drop conversion but that's because he had the bar sitting around and it was a straight budget build. The Ichigear Pista bar definitely has a better shape for the dirt. How does it ride and handle in the dirt?

Really well done, congrats on a successful build!

-D-

WNG 11-03-13 09:16 PM

One half wuff: Very sleek Trek. I'd say you hit a home run with this one!

anixi 11-03-13 10:12 PM


Originally Posted by one half wuff (Post 16216730)
Love that frame, keep the Picts coming as you work.

Picts?



Number400 11-04-13 09:05 AM

1 Attachment(s)
Almost finished!
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=349182

Build:
1x8 setup w12-30 rear and 43 tooth kingstar chain ring
Sora rear derailleur
Cane Creek series 40 headset
Truvative Rouleur crankset with SRAM team GXP BB
Vuelta Zerolight wheelset
SOMA 1 1/8 threadless cyclocross fork (wrong for this build)
Ritchie pro stem
Salsa Cowbell 2 bars


If anyone needs a 700c fork, the one on the GT is for sale. I ordered the wrong one. It has zero miles and I left a lot of stem.

Taxi Rob 11-04-13 12:19 PM

Hi guys. Haven't tuned in for a while, a lot of really amazing builds, I'll be updating mine soon. But while I'm here, anybody looking for a new project frameset? Paint looks rough but it looks like it might be full chrome underneath: http://www.ebay.com/itm/171164793395...84.m1436.l2649

Oh yeah, lowrider rack mounts are a big plus.

WNG 11-04-13 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by neo_pop_71 (Post 16216692)
Hey WNG-

How are things? I'm looking forward to seeing what build you put together with the 20" ATX frame (and the Klein-esque colored Ross too). I have to ask, what tooth count are you running on your 1x__ set up? Seeing it in the "big, big" configuration is really working that derailleur. Does it shift well into that big cog?

As always, hang in there my friend and keep up with the bike builds!

Peace,

-D-

Hey neo_pop!
Things are well here in PHX. It's still a roller coaster ride, but some positive events have taken place! I'll be PM-ing ya on that. I'm definitely not giving up or in. And the N+1 fun continues.

I've dug out the Sedona ATX frame from storage this weekend. It's a 20" x 23" (top tube) oversized thin-walled CR-MO frame I was given this Spring. It's a pretty cobalt blue, but the finish is trashed with specks of rust and worn down to bare steel. It'll get repainted, just have to pick a color.
I've gathered up the parts for it, just missing an 8-speed shifter option.

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5530/1...989ba390_b.jpg
Giant Sedona ATX=001 by WNG555, on Flickr

The 1x6 is running 14x30 Shimano freewheel and a Sugino 42t ring. The 105 RD is beyond its max of 28t. But has been working. It's not ideal for sure. It did drop the chain a few times going into the big sprocket.
The 105 RD was donated from rccardr, and the only RD I had on hand.

I'll be stripping some parts off the Hardrock....the brake levers, Deore DX cantis will go to the Sedona. While the ZOOM drop bar is destined for the Ross.
The Sedona will get Deore DX and XT gear that I've recycled. And will be a proper 8x3.

Vonruden 11-04-13 07:45 PM


Originally Posted by neo_pop_71 (Post 16216734)
Vonruden, you won't have any compatibility issue with those 1st gen. D.A. bar end shifters as long as you stay with the same cog specs for SIS. You could get more gearing in the back if you run them on friction as opposed to the indexed SIS setting. I just went through all this with an '86 "Deerhead" XT (6 speed) rear derailleur and a set of 8 speed brifters. I wanted to run the 13-32 6 speed freewheel that came with the "Deerhead" group, it hit most shifts at the extremes but jumped around with the 3/4 cog shifting. I installed a 7 speed Sachs freewheel and that was even worse than the previous I ordered a 13-32 8 speed freewheel, that nailed it! I needed to keep the index shifting with the brifters but I've done this many times before with bar end shifters and friction shifting, I've gotten away with an 8 speed set up using a 6 speed bar end shifter. You'll have to be patient and continue to push the set up to find the limits. I don't see why you couldn't get 8 or 9 speed shifting with the 1st gen D.A. bar ends on "friction" as long as you run a capable rear derailleur with the limit screws adjusted properly.

Good luck... have fun with promising frame... and keep us posted!

-D-

Thanks NEO. :thumb:

one half wuff 11-04-13 11:05 PM

Did the shake down run on Saturday afternoon and Sunday it started raining and is supposed to rain through Wednesday so it's going to be a few days before it will get to see any dirt. But will let you know. I'm concerned about even the gravel road performance of those 1 1/4" tires. Will certainly let you know which one of us comes out on top, it or me.....lol.

one half wuff 11-04-13 11:20 PM

Thanks for the compliment but I think that home run may have bounced over the fence..... I had an issue with the first crank. I had a brand new TruVative fiveD crank in all black that was in a batch of parts that I bought. I bolted it up and it looked great on the predominately black and all was well, or so. I thought.

I finished up the bike with the exception of installing the chain and the pedals. Weekend before last I sat down to install the pedals so I could take it in on Monday for a chain. The right pedal went on fine then I tried the left on and it wouldn't start. Thought the treads might be jacked even though they looked fine so I tried another left side pedal that came off one of my working bikes.......Then I discovered why that crank was such a good deal. The non-drive side crank arm had a 9/16 right-hand thead just like the drive side.

i was really proud of myself I didn't throw anything..... I just went and got a cold beer out of the fridge.

due ruote 11-05-13 02:08 AM

^ Wtf! I'd contact the mfr and tell them someone goofed. I don't see why they wouldn't replace that whether you bought it used or not.

wintermute 11-05-13 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by one half wuff (Post 16214398)
Just finished up this 1988 trek 850. Here's the specs.

Started with a 1988 Trek 850 triple butted Tange frame that was broken at at the right rear drop out. A friend that's a certified oil-field welder repaired it and Glen Thompson spread the rear triangle to 135.

SRAM X9 derailleurs
Original Shimano brakes with 600 Shimano levers.
Origin 8 hubs and sun rims
SRT stem and SR seat post
Ritchey seat
Ichigear pista drop bars with cork wrap
Dia Compe bar end shifters

http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/a...psf576dc1a.jpg

http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps2af6ab62.jpg

http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps1655272b.jpg

http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/a...psf8e72eb4.jpg

That bar is so cool! Looks like it is the ultimate dirt drop bar - absolutely meant for only one hand position (maybe two..with the other being at the end of the drops). If I didn't have too many builds going on and too little money I'd want to build something around those bars.

LesterOfPuppets 11-05-13 09:20 AM

"It's so black!"

- Ford Prefect


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