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Old 07-02-16, 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by hankaye
SpEd, Howdy;

Ok, see that now. Mine is thread-less to begin with so, reckon I'll
need to work out a solution for it.
Thanks for the responce.

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You can get extenders that fit a threadless fork to increase the height the stem can be at.

Mountain Bike Road Bicycle Fork Stem Riser Head Extender Lifter Handlebar Threadless Forks 1 1/8" 28.6mm Accessories Red 9117-in Bicycle Stem from Sports & Entertainment on Aliexpress.com | Alibaba Group

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Miele Man - Nice job with your bike. I like what you did with it. I don't think its a Summit brand bike though. Someone just stuck on a sticker from Summit Racing, https://www.summitracing.com/
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Originally Posted by Turbort88
I’ve wanted to contribute to this thread for a while and have finally built a bike worthy to post. I purchased this Schwinn Cimarron with all of the original components but without the wheels. Here’s the build list.

Frame: 86’ Schwinn Cimarron
Derailleurs/Brakes: XT M730
Crankset: Sugino XD2
Shifters: Rivendell Silver friction bar ends
Cassette: 8 speed Sram
Wheelset: XT 780 hubs with Mavic XM 719 rims
Tires: Compass Cycles Rat Trap Pass 26x2.35 standard casing
Stem: Nitto Dirt Drop 80mm 26.0 clamp
Handlebar: Soma Portola 56cm
Brake levers: Dia Compe Gran Compe non aero
Setpost: Suntour XC
Saddle: Brooks B17

Bike is still in the shakedown mode but on my past two commutes to work (I’ve since added a rear rack) I’ve bested my previous fastest avg speed set on my Rivendell Sam Hillborne.

Fantastic bike and excellent build!

Please start a thread with tons of pix- this is an incredibly well done bike on a world class frameset!
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Old 07-02-16, 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Miele Man
Here's my lasted MTB/Dropbar Frankenbike.

Plus, there's now a new use for those old Suicide Brake Levers.

The SUMMIT MTB bicycle was given to me because the shifters were busted, the rear derailler cable housing stop was missing and the crank barely turned.

I used a barrel adjuster from a rear derailler and clamped the adjuster with a hose clamp to the chainstay so that the adjuster acts as the cable housing stop.

I didn't want the expense of buying eith barend shifters or integrated brake lever shifters for the dropbar I wanted to use. The dropbar came off another old bike and it had brake levers with the auxiliary suicide levers. Inspiration struck!

I removed the suicide levers and file a flat on opposite sides of the stb sticking out from the brake lever body. This stud is actually the brake lever pivot. The flats were file so thatt hey accept the rectangular slot inthe sghifter innards. Once the flats were file I simply mounted the shifters onto the brake pivot stud and used the original suicide lever retaining bolt to keep the shifter in place. The shifter cable feeds into shifter cable housing that is tightly taped to the dropbar and then covered with bar tape.

The shifter is very easy to use with a thum or finger and shifts very well.

Here are some images.

Bike.

! SUMMIT MTB 2 Dropbar 01 by Miele Man, on Flickr

! SUMMIT MTB 2 Dropbar 02 by Miele Man, on Flickr

! SUMMIT MTB 2 Dropbar 03 by Miele Man, on Flickr

The Brake Body mounted rear shifter.

Brake Lever Mounted Shifter 01 by Miele Man, on Flickr

Brake Lever Mounted Shifter 02 by Miele Man, on Flickr

Brake Lever Mounted Shifter 03 by Miele Man, on Flickr

Brake Lever Mounted Shifter 04 by Miele Man, on Flickr

The Shifter in use.

Brake Lever Mounted Shifter Operation 01 by Miele Man, on Flickr

Brake Lever Mounted Shifter Operation 02 by Miele Man, on Flickr

Brake Lever Mounted Shifter Operation 03 by Miele Man, on Flickr

So, now it's possible to convert an MTB to a dropbar bicycle even if you don't have barend or integrated brake/shifters. Plus it's a great use for those old suicide brake levers.

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That is so excellent!

Please post pics of the studs. I'm a huge fan of the old Suntour Command Shifters- sort of the same concept- but this is really really cool!
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Miele Man, Howdy;

Thanks for the link. Gave me the words to put into a search.
Have the results saved so I can get to it when the time is right.
Thanks again.

HAPPY 4th of July weekend.

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I know not vintage. Just "finished" it about a half hour ago though. I missed the 29er I traded off for the Sojourn frame, so I built another.,,,,BD

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1992 Trek 950

Here's my conversion that I made back in 1997 and to this day I still ride this bike. It's a 1992, Trek 950. And it has been used for my commutes to/from work, small multi days tours and still enjoy riding trails. I have even rode it on a few 200k brevets. It is not my fastest but I never worry about anything with it.
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Originally Posted by finnyct90
I rescued this one from the transfer station metal dumpster.
Except for the tires, everything has come from the parts collection.
I went with the old 7 speed, RSX bifters that I have been saving for a fun project.
All I need to finish it is the proper front derailleur. The IRD compact triple derailleur works great with bifters and MTB triple rings.
Now to search the inter web for a nice vintage Trek saddle, as this one appears to have been a chew toy.
Wow! I have a Trek Millennia which looks like it could be your 920's sibling. Mine is the same color as yours, has the same made in USA stickers, same frame/ fork... Except mine rides on 26" tires. I have Weinmann rims. 36 spoke rear rim, 32 spoke front. Originally had a funky shock stem. Now has a funky adjustable stem.

...and twist grips... phththth

Yours is better

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Originally Posted by Bikedued
I know not vintage. Just "finished" it about a half hour ago though. I missed the 29er I traded off for the Sojourn frame, so I built another.,,,,BD
It looks like you are running a brifter with a mtn triple. Which front derailleur did you go with to make it work?
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Anything 9 speed works together as long as you have the right shifter for a triple. The shifter doesn't know the diameter of the front rings, just the spacing between the rings, which is the same as road for 9 speed. They didn't start all the stupidness until 10 speed. Other than accidentally having a ten speed speed chain on it, which mucks things up somewhat, it shifts quite nice. Putting a 9 speed chain on it this weekend which should fix the problem on the front. The problem is that the inside of the cage is too wide, which causes an issue shifting down into low, or up into high. It takes more cage movement, because the chain is narrower than a 9 speed. It will will either not want to shift into the small ring, or rubs the chain against the outer plate, when it gets to the big ring. Any attempt to adjust either issue out, makes the problem worse for the other extreme. The derailleur is a low mount Mega 9 Deore.,,,,BD

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I had the issue of shifting into the big ring, no matter how much I adjusted. So I ended up going with bar end shifter for front and kept the brifter for the rear. I have the same setup on the Salsa Vaya, so I am used to it, but it would have been nice to use brifter for both.
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Geometry Question

When you do the drop bar conversions are you sizing up or down, ie using a larger or smaller frame? A drop bar is going to add some distance to the cockpit compared to a flat bar.
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Originally Posted by cs1
When you do the drop bar conversions are you sizing up or down, ie using a larger or smaller frame? A drop bar is going to add some distance to the cockpit compared to a flat bar.
Have a look here:

https://www.bikeforums.net/18391417-post4617.html

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Originally Posted by cs1
When you do the drop bar conversions are you sizing up or down, ie using a larger or smaller frame? A drop bar is going to add some distance to the cockpit compared to a flat bar.
Typically its a smaller frame compared to a road bike. This is especially true with many 80s/early 90s MTBs due to the top tube being very long in relation to the seat tube.
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hers's mine .... bought for £10 .... have it on ebay but am seriously thinking about adding drop bars and shimano 105 as a winter bike

Bridgestone MB2

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Shifter on brake lever

@Miele Man I always assumed that was how SunTour Command Shifters were mounted... until I bought a set. Now I'm left wondering (again) why no manufacturer mounted them that way. I got a crate of levers with that stud on it....
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I have that same MB-2 but larger frame, and in the solid charcoal blue/grey. Nice bike but the high bottom bracket makes fitting a challenge for drop bars, at least for me. The frame fit me, but in order to use a road stem it has to be a little taller. I need the elevation since it puts me me higher than a frame with more bottom bracket drop. I end up leaning more on the bars unless the bars can be lifted to match. in mountain form it fits fine, due to the higher bars.,,,,BD

A little shorter and taller stem would make it more comfortable. This stem is at max height, and I am leaning forward
as much as a road bike. With the long top tube and high BB, I will need a Technomic. This is my fit for a 60cm road bike, but the bars are out there due to another inch or more of top tube.


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Originally Posted by mstateglfr
Typically its a smaller frame compared to a road bike. This is especially true with many 80s/early 90s MTBs due to the top tube being very long in relation to the seat tube.
Thanks I will start measuring soon.
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr
Typically its a smaller frame compared to a road bike. This is especially true with many 80s/early 90s MTBs due to the top tube being very long in relation to the seat tube.
Not according to this guy:

https://www.bikeforums.net/18391417-post4617.html

"....starting with the largest possible frame size is nearly a must".

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I ride 63-65cm road bikes.
My vintage MTBs have been 22" which is 56cm.

The top tube lenght on my mtb generally matches my road bike top tubes.

If someone rides a 56cm road bike and you give them a 22" mtb, chances are they will be seriously stretched out.
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr
Typically its a smaller frame compared to a road bike. This is especially true with many 80s/early 90s MTBs due to the top tube being very long in relation to the seat tube.
You don't need to start with a MTB frame that is smaller than you normally ride. They do measure differently for the same fit. Example: my road/touring bikes are around 60cm (roughly 23-24 inches) yet my mountain bikes that fit me the same way (perfect) are 22".

You'll mitigate the potentially longer top tube or other geometry differences with a combination of stem length, handlebars and setup. Plus, being a little more "stretched out" might be what you want. I have a Mongoose IBOC with a very short wheelbase and the top tube is a full 1.5 inches shorter than the Rockhopper's top tube, even though the frames are theoretically the same size. There are no absolutes but you should consider handlebars and stem together to give you the reach and fit you want, depending on the frame.

The thing that people sometimes struggle with is finding a shorter stem that is tall enough. There are a few favorites you'll see plenty of in this forum, but it depends on what fits (quill or threadless, size, etc.).
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Okay I give up. I tried everything after getting a 9 speed chain, even drilling the leverage point further back on the derailleur arm to change the cable pull to match the road shifter. Shimano just can't make things work together to meld two styles of bikes, or to build a beefed up touring bike with mountain parts. I refuse to use bar end shifters on a bike for mostly off road use, so it's going back to straight bars, I had a touring derailleur that would have probably worked, top pull and all, but of course it was either way too low or way too high, because of the water bottle boss. I admit defeat, as the parts were simply not made to work together. The touring road derailleur worked on the Raleigh Sojourn, since the bottle boss was in a different location. It wasn't perfect, but it was workable if you were patient about the slightly slow shifting into low. It shifted WAY better than this, at any rate. I'm also not going to give up a bottle mount on a mountain bike. too critical to be hydrated in that application.

The Trek 800 with bar ends is fine, since it's mainly on road use with occasional dirt trail use. On a full off road bike, I'd rather have it shift quickly and correctly, and not end up in with a bar end shifter in my leg if I crash. I will get a nice stem and a set of 31.8 riser bars, and switch it back. Due to the high popularity of disc road bikes now, I could probably even get a decent price or trade on some off road disc calipers. What I have now are BB7 road disc calipers.

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I ended up going with bar end shifter just on the left side (front shifter), and brifter on the right side (rear shifter) for the same reason. It has worked well for me so far.
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Originally Posted by Bikedued
Okay I give up. I tried everything after getting a 9 speed chain, even drilling the leverage point further back on the derailleur arm to change the cable pull to match the road shifter. Shimano just can't make things work together to meld two styles of bikes, or to build a beefed up touring bike with mountain parts. I refuse to use bar end shifters on a bike for mostly off road use, so it's going back to straight bars, I had a touring derailleur that would have probably worked, top pull and all, but of course it was either way too low or way too high, because of the water bottle boss. I admit defeat, as the parts were simply not made to work together. The touring road derailleur worked on the Raleigh Sojourn, since the bottle boss was in a different location. It wasn't perfect, but it was workable if you were patient about the slightly slow shifting into low. It shifted WAY better than this, at any rate. I'm also not going to give up a bottle mount on a mountain bike. too critical to be hydrated in that application.

The Trek 800 with bar ends is fine, since it's mainly on road use with occasional dirt trail use. On a full off road bike, I'd rather have it shift quickly and correctly, and not end up in with a bar end shifter in my leg if I crash. I will get a nice stem and a set of 31.8 riser bars, and switch it back. Due to the high popularity of disc road bikes now, I could probably even get a decent price or trade on some off road disc calipers. What I have now are BB7 road disc calipers.
I would go either Sora or 105, both should work fine in the intended riding application?
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Originally Posted by Bicycle Addict
I would go either Sora or 105, both should work fine in the intended riding application?
A 9x3 of those would work with both 9 speed and mountain front derailleur? These are Tiagra 9x3, if that makes any difference. Anyway, I have already decided to go back to straight bars. Waiting for a Paypal transfer to go through, and planning an order. Funn blue anodized 31.8 bars, new Deore shifter set, brake levers, and some nice locking grips. A stem too of course, since the shorty will be too short.,,,,BD
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