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Old 08-16-16, 01:08 AM
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1998 Nishiki Pinnacle: Salsa Woodchipper 2, Tektro RL520 brake levers, Ultegra BS64 bar end shifters, Lizard Skin DSP bar tape, Delta bar stem extender, Bontrager 120mm plus 7 degrees stem.






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Update on my Hard Rock: here it is in commuter mode. I also have an old lunch cooler bag that I use as a rando bag (it's the right shape) but it's pretty ugly so i didn't want to post it.

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coolcat, Howdy;

Originally Posted by coolkat
Update on my Hard Rock: here it is in commuter mode. I also have an old lunch cooler bag that I use as a rando bag (it's the right shape) but it's pretty ugly so i didn't want to post it.

Grand lookin' bike! What year is it? Any other specifics you care to share about it?

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Originally Posted by hankaye
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Grand lookin' bike! What year is it? Any other specifics you care to share about it?

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Around 92-93 maybe? I use it as a commuter/everyday rider and will also race cyclocross on it this fall.
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coolkat, Howdy;

Originally Posted by coolkat
Around 92-93 maybe? I use it as a commuter/everyday rider and will also race cyclocross on it this fall.
I was curious as mine is a '96 Stumpjumper and has the same Mustard/Champagne color
and threadless stem Is that an upgrade you did or did it come with it? Mine came with a
front suspension instead of the solid one that you have on yours. I'm also interested in
the fender set you have. IMO, you've got a very nice and clean looking bike. Something
like I've envisioned for mine. !
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sloar, very clean cable routing.
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What's not to like about that build? Very nicely done!
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I am in the in my mind planning stages of this beast. 1996 Gary Fisher X-Caliber. I have a Gary Bar, and I can't think of a better bike to put it on, hehe. Previous owner Put the rigid fork on, and aside from the color, I think it will stay. I will have to play around a bit with stems and a possible stem riser like on that COOL orange Nishiki. The components are everything I could possibly ask for in a build like this. XT rear, LX front, and a Sugino Impel crankset. It also doesn't hurt that this bike is feather light compared to my Trek 800 drop bar bike. A pleasant surprise on any steel bike. Yeeeeeah, I see a few hours of heat gun work in my future, and copius amounts of wax and grease remover for the adhesive left behind. Somebody went NUTS with band stickers and electrical tape.,,,,BD

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Bikedued, Howdy;

Workin' a heat gun this time of year??? Where you live ...
Nice lookin' project. What is the length and rise of the stem on that thing?
If you don't want to use it I might be interested ... might could use it on my project.

Looks like your flood irrigation is working overtime.

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No flood irrigation is the problem. It's actually higher now. Where the bike is sitting is now underwater. We got no rain for a month and a half, and the dirt in my yard was starting to crack open. Now we get a BUNCH of rain in 3-4 days. The hopping amphibians are singing loud and proud.

It's a crazy stem isn't it? Looks like a 130/135 with a 45* rise. If I don't need it, you're more than welcome to it, for the cost of shipping. I have not had a chance to even look at the bike yet, so I don't know the stem specifics.,,,,BD


If the heat gun can dehumidify the immediate area, it will be an improvement.

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Originally Posted by BigSung
sloar, very clean cable routing.
Yeah, it is. I didn't know that the barcon cables could be routed like that...I might need to re-evaluate my own.
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Originally Posted by arex
Yeah, it is. I didn't know that the barcon cables could be routed like that...I might need to re-evaluate my own.
That's how I always route the barcons, no problems with shifting. Thanks for the replies.
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I tried that barcon routing, but the housing under the wrap going up by the brake lever drove me crazy while in the drops. I always route it the traditional way now, shooting out at the beginning of the drop curvature. I don't mind it at all that way. If you have larger hoods where they flare out at the base, then it might not be so bad I guess. I did it on a bike with Dia Compe brakes, and it was stuck out in the open where it would hit the inner part of my main thumb joint.,,,,BD

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Originally Posted by arex
Yeah, it is. I didn't know that the barcon cables could be routed like that...I might need to re-evaluate my own.
I have routed bar end shifters on 2 bikes under the tape and out near the stem. One is some friction Suntour barcons and the other are 9sp indexed Shimano bar ends. Both shift smooth and accurate.

I have also routed some bar ends on Origin8 Gary Sweep bars and needed to have them exit when the hook starts because the hook was too severe to bend the cable.


When the bars are a traditional full C bend, routing the shift cable under the tape really cleans up the cockpit and there is no downside in terms of shifting. Give it a try the next time you need to change the tape or cables...or if you are just bored.

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Originally Posted by sloar
Having the cable go under the bar tape the entire way looks 100% better. I never understand why people ever let it flop out halfway up the bars.
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr
I have routed bar end shifters on 2 bikes under the tape and out near the stem. One is some friction Suntour barcons and the other are 9sp indexed Shimano bar ends. Both shift smooth and accurate.

I have also routed some bar ends on Origin8 Gary Sweep bars and needed to have them exit when the hook starts because the hook was too severe to bend the cable.


When the bars are a traditional full C bend, routing the shift cable under the tape really cleans up the cockpit and there is no downside in terms of shifting. Give it a try the next time you need to change the tape or cables...or if you are just bored.


That makes sense. I tried routing under the tape on an ergo bar and it shifted like crap, didn't think about the round/ergo bar difference and just assumed that's the way it was supposed to be done. Hope I remember this when I get around to replacing bar tape.
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Solar. I like what you've done with your Gary fisher. clean look on the cockpit.
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Originally Posted by hankaye
Bikedued, Howdy;

Workin' a heat gun this time of year??? Where you live ...
Nice lookin' project. What is the length and rise of the stem on that thing?
If you don't want to use it I might be interested ... might could use it on my project.

Looks like your flood irrigation is working overtime.

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Well, there's good news and bad news. The good news is that with the Gary Bar, the stem height and reach feels perfect at the moment. I will have to see how it feels actually riding it though, so there's a chance I may change it out in the next few weeks.

On the seat height, I put a real saddle on it, and had to raise it more, by about an inch and a half. The Ironhorse sale bike had a WTB Speed V on it, so I snagged that immediately, and put it on the GF. A little tall, but I think it will give the bike a sporty feel, and as long as my hands are high/close enough. For a mountain bike seat height of that time period, it's not far off. On the mountain bar, the grips were way too close.

I got all of the stickers and electrical tape off, without the help of a heat gun. Sooo, I will have to pick up a gallon of wax and grease remover for the adhesive. I use it for LOTS of other stuff as well, so I've been needing it anyway. It's a NICE looking bike without all that junk on there, and thankfully the tape wasn't hiding any nasty scratches or frame damage. I also found like it said on the catalog page, that the tubing is heat treated True Temper OX3. That should make it a really nice rider!

I got off for the weekend at noon today, and that was the exact time the rain started once again. At this point, I didn't care anymore, so there was a light rain going as I was doing all of this. I figured if I can do a 40 mile ride in the rain, I wasn't going to melt working on a bike in the driveway. Now I need yet another set of 90's style 8 speed brifters. or bar ends and levers.,,,,BD

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Bikedued, Howdy;

Can't miss something I never had although the offer was greatly appreciated ... Glad things are unfolding
in a positive manner for ya.

Shouldn't need the heat gun with all the heat and humidity you guys get in that region. Here I could
just set it out in the sun and wait 5 minutes, the sun's heat would soften the glue in short order, just
need heavy gloves so as not to burn my fingers on the frame . Luckily, the main heat of the summer
is about over, only getting into the mid to high 90's now.

I've always found ammonia to work well for wax removing, for grease I've always used Dawn.

Good luck with this one.

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I dug out some Tektro brake levers from a pile of parts on a work bench, but I don't know if they'll work for me. They're the short reach version. I may rob a set off of a bike I have not ridden in a long while, but the levers are black. If I have to use Tektros, at least they could be silver. Hmmm. I really want Shimano aero levers. Time to break down and get a set. i have a few sets, but they're on bikes already.

I have also started a looooooooooooong overdue bike parts organizing. I am finding stuff that I remember having, but I am also finding stuff that I had no idea I had. I found a single Campagolo crank dust cap, that I had NO remembrance of. The allen head hole is perfect, as are the threads. If I find another one I'll be ecstatic, hehe. The Raleigh Professional needs another now. To put it in perspective?? I have already filled two and a half gallon ziploc bags with rear derailleurs alone. That is probably about half of them, being conservative.,,,,BD

We had solid sun for a month and a half, but none since the day I picked these bikes up.. Oh well... The worst part is that now the grass is going to go crazy again. Sigh.

EDIT:Well, the silver Tektro short reachers just decided their own fate. The left one never got tight, made a "tick" noise and now is stripped. It's only the second bike I've installed them on, and the first didn't see a lot of mileage. Oh well.

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Looking WAY cleaner now. I used some lighter fluid, and it wiped out the adhesive quickly without hurting the paint. Then a deep scrubbing, rinse, and then Behold furniture polish to deepen the color. Going with nine speed, and hopefully it works. At least I can use the road Tiagra FD on this bike, since the clamp hit between the bottle cage bolts. Need a chain and a cassette, and some cables. Thinking 11/32, to get a wider range. I'll be able to climb the side of a house, and still have a somewhat decent top speed. I will also need a problem solver pulley, since the FD is a bottom pull. If I have trouble with the Newer XT that's on it, I have a nearly NOS version of the original to throw on there. If that fails, then I guess I will have to buy a Sora or other long cage 9 speed compatible RD. The challenge is a little more enjoyable this time around, after going through the nightmare on the 29er.,,,,BD

LOVE this frame!!! True Temper OX3, so it feels like the weight of a road bike nearly.

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It needs a silver seatpost. I have an Icon, which I believe is a Trek post from the time period, or maybe early 2000's. It looks uber beefy.,,,,BD
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Originally Posted by arex
Yeah, it is. I didn't know that the barcon cables could be routed like that...I might need to re-evaluate my own.
I went and routed the cables the normal way, then I saw a write up on how he routed the cables under the bar tape. I ended up re-doing mine on the RockHopper. I am pretty happy with how it turned out.
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BD, watching your Gary fisher build. Looks more road bikeish than mountain ( lighter) than my wahoo build. frame cleaned up great.
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