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Old 07-02-12, 04:45 PM
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Masi ebay auction help or suggestions

Put up my Barcelona limited Masi on Ebay as I have been watching one...just frame and fork...go up and up. Ok, his is in a bit better condition...but not much...same size...mine is a complete bike. Wondering why mine has only gotten one bid and his has gotten a whole bunch. I was wondering if.... as I noticed....his was something super special as his has got the misspelled "Los Angels" olympic flag and mine is spelled correctly. Kind of like a coin with some factory flaw that makes it much more valuable?
Any suggestions or comments welcome...
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Joe,

Couple of quick observations.

The photos on the frameset are very nice. Gives a buyer fewer questions that may need to be addressed.

The description on the frameset is also fairly well detailed. Again, fewer question marks in a buyer's noggin.

Good luck with yours though, she's beauty.
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Joe.
What do you think sells ebay auctions? Pictures and descriptions. Look at your auction pics. Look at your auction description.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/MASI-BARCELO...-/150848378637

Now look at the other one.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Masi-3V-Barc...-/221058921166

Do you notice any differences? If you don't, that's the problem. If you do, then your questions have been answered.
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I personally think it's the stem

Joe - better pics, better description is the way to go. If it helps, think of what kind of questions you'd want an auction write-up to answer for you - and go with that.

Good luck - that's a pretty rare beast!

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Joe, You should definitely try to add some more detailed photos of your bike. I see that you mention your bike comes with a Mavic group including the starfish crank. However, there are a number of parts which are not easily identifiable. What are the stem and seatpost? Brakes look like more modern dual pivot brakes. Are those Campy brifters? You should provide a complete list of components so the buyer knows exactly what they are getting, including all the details such as handlebar tape, tires, bottle cage, etc. You mention a few scratches, but none can be seen in the two photos you've provided. The seller of the frameset has lots of excellent photos, but your listing only has two distant photos, both of which cut off the front and rear end of the bike. Lastly, it seems like yours may have a mix of parts. Collectors would probably want to build this up with period-correct Campagnolo parts, so it may have been more prudent to sell yours as a frameset instead of a complete bike as is. Just my 2 cents. It's not too late to update the photos/description. Good luck!
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Joe, please dont take this personaly but it's simple:

Great ad.

Horrible ad.

Of course there could be a few buyers waiting in the wings to 'snipe' it. Reserve is too high.
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+ infinity to what's been said about pictures. If you have your pics on Photobucket or similar you can grab the html code and put large pics in the description section, as the other seller has done (there's a tab you have to click to switch to html mode when you insert them). Close-ups, even of small imperfections, is exactly what buyers want to see. It shows them that you aren't trying to hide anything.
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Close-ups, even of small imperfections, is exactly what buyers want to see. It shows them that you aren't trying to hide anything.
+1 (I'm not saying you are trying to hide anything, but buyers are suspicious.)
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I think the second one of anything rare to be listed tends to get short shrift. Many bidders don't respond well to "follow-the-leader," for whatever psychological reason. This forum has quite a few threads with a theme along the lines of "how come this Simplex Super widget sold for $1,000, and the one I listed 8 seconds later didn't get an opening bid at $800?"
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Plus listing the same frame same size and with a better one ending after yours is exactly what you *don't* want to do. End your auction and relist after that one closes. Then re-list yours pegging it at a high BIN price reflecting what the other one sold for, with yours as a kind-of consolation prize offered as it were to the high-bidding losers of that auction.

In addition to everything already said.
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verrry interesting. I know you guys are right. I will definately fix up my ad with better pics and descriptions. So, I am assuming, the misspelled los angeles thing is not what is making his go through the roof and mine spinning in the mud? Thanks very much for the help and I will fix it up today!! Your right also, those brake calipers are campy and the brifters are sachs. If this doesnt sell, i think maybe ill strip it down and just put up the frame and fork. Thanks again. Joe
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Probably does not matter a whole lot, but you are listed under vintage parts and accessories.
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Yah, should put it in bicycles/frames/size.
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Looks good to me, Joe. Let it ride.
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Originally Posted by joe englert View Post
verrry interesting. I know you guys are right. I will definately fix up my ad with better pics and descriptions. So, I am assuming, the misspelled los angeles thing is not what is making his go through the roof and mine spinning in the mud? Thanks very much for the help and I will fix it up today!! Your right also, those brake calipers are campy and the brifters are sachs. If this doesnt sell, i think maybe ill strip it down and just put up the frame and fork. Thanks again. Joe
I would discount a bike with the LA spelling error.

Joe, you know what to do. The listing and your description don't fully match, not a great confidence builder.
The scratch on the down tube from the probable brake swing should be noted and imaged.
Good images and a comprehensive description builds confidence.
Confidence buoys the price.
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By the way, rode mine over the weekend, no idea why you are selling.
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1. Reserve auctions = reduces interest.

2. Only pictures are the crappy eBay ones. Use a hosting site and go full sized, with a lot more pics.

3. Pull down listing.

4. Lifetime total of four feedbacks as a seller (two are high end bikes, so that helps).

5. No shipping cost listed, and it does not calculate either.

Marketing matters, a lot. Buyers have no imagination.

Your bike is too special to not go for a lot more.
Use the other ad as a guide.

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1. Reserve auctions = reduces interest.

2. Only pictures are the crappy eBay ones. Use a hosting site and go full sized, with a lot more pics.

3. Pull down listing.

4. Lifetime total of four feedbacks as a seller (two are high end bikes, so that helps).

5. No shipping cost listed, and it does not calculate either.

Marketing matters, a lot. Buyers have no imagination.

Your bike is too special to not go for a lot more.
Use the other ad as a guide.
Joe,

All of these are helpful suggestions.

I like the one here though about using the other as a guide.

Shameless copying of that seller's marketing plan would be a great idea.

Fix yours pronto, you are still in the hunt.
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By the way, rode mine over the weekend, no idea why you are selling.
Yes...mine rides great as well. Im thinning the herd a bit. I did pick up the two bianchi superleggera's and have to make up for that. At any rate, I did take a few more nice pictures and added to the description as well. This should be updated tomorrow so we shall see. Thanks again. for the help on this one. Here are a few of the new pics, i also am going to post several more as well. tried to get some better close ups.
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+1 to everything t.bill says.

Make sure to describe and show photos of any condition issues. Avoid any terms such as: like new, NOS, Mint, Excellent etc... Certain buyers may try to use this to file a "not as described" claim. Great photos trump, descriptions everytime.

One more piece of advice. Consider listing the bike in 2 catagories - it's an extra .50 and you'll get more views. I would get rid of the reserve and start the auction at .01.

Edit: Noticed the Auction is set to end Friday, between breakfast and lunch on both coasts - this will not help.

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Joe, looking at both ads, I get the impression your frame is a well ridden bike while the other is nearly NOS, I'm drawn to the conditon of the other, maybe even $750 more drawn, particularly since the major feature of the frame is the finish. As others said, better photos will help and the "reserve" and no shipping cost is a turn off. Good luck it's a cool frame.
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I'm surprised you have the one bid actually.

I would have waited until the other sold. I think it was rude to horn in on his auction, potentially devaluing it, and yours would have done better AFTER his auction established value. I think it will hurt you more than him since his auction is competent. Yours comes off as second rate, and if someone doesn't know how to sell a bike, I assume it's poorly maintained as well. If someone doesn't know how to take a photo and write an ad, do you trust them to ship the bike?

Other factors - that stem is awful and Mavic has a more limited, variable market.

Another key difference...you have feedback for four sales, one of which is negative. He has several, all positive. He inspires confidence as a seller.

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Pull your auction. List after his sells, with much better pictures on a NEUTRAL backdrop. The ones above over the mulch and stuff are not much better than your original ones.
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I agree with everyone else. I'm automatically hesitant of anything that does not have multiple pictures that are well taken. If a seller is willing to take the time and energy to take and show many nice pictures, it gives you the impression that he is the type to really take care of his bikes.

Two pictures gives me the impression that something is being hidden and I might not be as happy with the item when it shows up. I want to see shots of just about everything so there are no surprises and read a great, no BS description that hits up everything. If I feel nothing is being hidden and am satisfied with what I'm shown, I'm more likely to bid.
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