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Old 07-05-12, 02:47 PM
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New Favorite Retro Tires

I have been wanting to try the new Nashbar Vredestein retro tires because I have had very good luck with the regular high pressure Vredestein road tires.

http://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product...27_-1___202471

I am very pleased with the tires. They measure a true 25mm and, even at 160psi, where I like them, they provide a lively, but not harsh ride with good grip.





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That's great to know about the true width. I was wondering about that, because one reviewer on the product page mentioned they measured only about 23mm. I heard about these tires from the Bob list but haven't taken the plunge. Maybe now I will. Thanks for the review!
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160 psi, holy ****. The tread looks "painted on" so maybe that helps explain the supple feel. I'll have to try some of these.
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160 psi, holy ****. The tread looks "painted on" so maybe that helps explain the supple feel. I'll have to try some of these.
Nothing "painted on." Three different types of rubber bonded. I have used the 23mm blue/black Vredesteins from Performance for several years with excellent results. Also 160psi.
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Nice, I didn't mean it disparagingly. Thin sidewalls and tread (to a point) are good things in my book.
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Nice, I didn't mean it disparagingly. Thin sidewalls and tread (to a point) are good things in my book.
No offense taken. I was confused, but now I understand your comment. You may be right, but I'd have to take them off to check.
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Holy smokes Bob, that's a great price on those.

Thanks for the tip.

I'll put a set on my Tommasini Super Prestige and see what they feel like.

Easy to A/B these as I have also ridden the bike with Veloflex Master 23s.
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160 psi, holy ****.
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The labels are a bit large, but I could live with that.

I couldn't live with the labels not centered on the valves, though.
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The labels are a bit large, but I could live with that.

I couldn't live with the labels not centered on the valves, though.
Sorry about that.
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The labels are a bit large, but I could live with that.

I couldn't live with the labels not centered on the valves, though.
I don't like the looks of labels that are not opposite the valves. Visual balance.

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Forgive me for intruding, but what does good grip mean? I've never felt my tires slip except in sand or on a wet metal plate or something like that. Do different tires grip to different extents? If so, you'd have to feel it slip to feel the difference, right? Or wrong?
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i might just have to try a set of these on my modern bike. the cheaper specialized tires just are not cutting it. these look like hey have a more traditional rounded cross section.

to answer the question above, tires can break loose on almost any wet surface but the major difference to me is the feel when cornering. some tires feel dead and are far from confidence inspiring while cornering while other have a lively feel that is easier to push into a turn.
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Labels aligned with the stem serves two purposes. First, it looks better, second it helps you locate whatever may be stuck in your tyre that caused a flat. Neither of the bikes shown did that. I learned that on my first bike shop job, back in the last century.

I have no idea why anyone would run tyres at 160psi, anywhere. The OP is definitely not a Grant Petersen/Jan Heine disciple.
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Labels aligned with the stem serves two purposes. First, it looks better, second it helps you locate whatever may be stuck in your tyre that caused a flat. Neither of the bikes shown did that. I learned that on my first bike shop job, back in the last century.

I have no idea why anyone would run tyres at 160psi, anywhere. The OP is definitely not a Grant Petersen/Jan Heine disciple.
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Labels aligned with the stem serves two purposes. First, it looks better, second it helps you locate whatever may be stuck in your tyre that caused a flat. Neither of the bikes shown did that. I learned that on my first bike shop job, back in the last century.

I have no idea why anyone would run tyres at 160psi, anywhere. The OP is definitely not a Grant Petersen/Jan Heine disciple.
Frankly, I have never thought about that, but, with your explanation, will do so in the future.
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RFC, how old are the tires on the Litespeed? It concerns me that it seems like the rubber has separated from tread and come off in a couple places (see both to the left of the brake caliper and also a larger piece of missing rubber in front of the seat stay). Any explanation for what happened there, or is that just how these tires wear? Any other places on the tires showing similar wear?

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Not a fan of the large, off-center logo, but, otherwise, the price is right (on sale) and the tires look nice. Thanks for the recommendation.
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The tires are new and there is no separation.
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Logos on tires mean zilch to me.
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Just for grins, I watched at the Nature Valley Grand Prix how many racers' mechanics bought in on this stated rule.

About 50/50.
you have to remember that manufacturers dictate label/valve relationships on tubulars.
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you have to remember that manufacturers dictate label/valve relationships on tubulars.
Surprised at the number of folks racing on Specialized new clinchers.

Non-alignment was noticed, as were clinchers.
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Surprised at the number of folks racing on Specialized new clinchers.

Non-alignment was noticed, as were clinchers.
i had to razz you a little bit. i wouldnt mind trying a set of those new specialized tires. their older high end stuff was good but these just look like they mean business. (their cheap end is disappointing)
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i had to razz you a little bit. i wouldnt mind trying a set of those new specialized tires. their older high end stuff was good but these just look like they mean business. (their cheap end is disappointing)
After three straight days riding in this heat, I certainly could go for a "cheery" upgrade.

They have a set at GP, but they are so spendy atm, I'll have to wait.

Actually, I can't wait to try a set of the ones RFC points out in this thread.

The cheapest I have seen the Masters at is $33. These are worth a try at $29 if they are decent!
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I'll say it again. ONE HUNDRED SIXTY PSI ? !!!!!! Yikes...... frankly, I didn't think any tire would rate that, aside from maybe a high end track tubular. You must positively sail on those.
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