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Old 07-06-12, 03:11 PM
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those do-hicky wires that rub on the tires to brush off pebbles

sombody give me a name or link to them-I could use a set!

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Tire savers.
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I think Rootboy makes and sells some nice looking ones made with chains.
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I think you can also get them from Loose Screws. But support Rootboy if he has some right now.
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I will pm rootboy in the morn- its 1:13 am- time for bed
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Rootboy's are the best.

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For the ignorant here, how useful are these? I'm not sure I've had a problem with rocks. Now and then I get something like riding through broken glass which requires attention, but I can't remember needing to wipe off pebbles.

This is a genuine question, as I simply don't know how useful these are and if they are worth the effort.
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I had never heard anyone claim that tire savers were for knocking off pebbles; their function was to knock thorns and glass shards off the tire on the first revolution before they had a chance to get embedded and cause a flat. Effectiveness seemed limited since we still got flats with them, but I'd guess that they work better than the practice of wiping the tire with your gloved palm after riding over broken glass. One negative is that they tended to knock dirt from the tread of the tire which then ended up on the brakes and bike frame. BTW, the one shown in the picture above should be reshaped to more closely follow the cross-section of the tire. Currently it could only work on thorns/shards that are right in the center of the tread.

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Old 07-06-12, 04:53 PM
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Hi Puch in Finland,

Here's a picture. I'll send you a PM. And thanks for the support folks.



and some for fenders too.
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Here is a link to a Bicycle Quartly blog post about these devices. http://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/0...f-tire-wipers/
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Old 07-06-12, 05:54 PM
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I wasn't aware that these could be made to work with fenders...

On a recent 10 mile ride on my MTB that ended up being all on a paved trail, I heard a "tink, tink, tink" and pulled a record 12 goathead thorns from my tires! The devil's contraption, those things!
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I'll third, or fourth or................+N for the Rootboy savers. They are so well made and elegant looking. You will not regret getting them.

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+ 10000 - because rootboy uses super-pliable tubing and brass for the metal parts, they are superior in every way to the originals.

Plus, you get instant street-cred buying something actually produced by a C&V member. Can't beat that

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+ 10000 - because rootboy uses super-pliable tubing and brass for the metal parts, they are superior in every way to the originals.

Plus, you get instant street-cred buying something actually produced by a C&V member. Can't beat that

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Geeze. Thank you all for your kind support and comments. i really appreciate it.

BTW: DiegoFrogs, I do make a version that works with fenders, and I have to thank forum member Alex Moll for the inspiration, when he showed me an old set of English made tire savers he found in an incredible stash of vintage parts.

They do work with fenders but, since they are primarily made for "road" tires, success in removing Goatheads from MTB tires might be sketchy. Designed to ride the portion of the tire tread that contacts the road, they work best with tires that have a "smooth" tread profile. In other words, the more pronounced or aggressive the tread is, the less actual tire surface these contact, but some folks mount them so they ride just above the tire, barely skimming it, which might be effective with Goatheads.

Thanks again all ! Rootboy
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Originally Posted by Savagewolf View Post
For the ignorant here, how useful are these? I'm not sure I've had a problem with rocks. Now and then I get something like riding through broken glass which requires attention, but I can't remember needing to wipe off pebbles.

This is a genuine question, as I simply don't know how useful these are and if they are worth the effort.
Savagewolf; there is no way to prove one way or the other just how effective these are. I don't know of anyone who has done an actual test. I will say that when I used them for a lengthy road trip with sew ups back in the '70's, my riding partner and I seemed to get a lot fewer flats. Anecdotal evidence at best, so I suppose it's a matter of faith to a certain extent. Some believe they work ...some don't. BTW, they are designed not primarily for stones, although the English refer to them as "Flint catchers", but for stickers, glass shards and any other sharp bits that might stick to your tire and penetrate the tread if given a few more rotations. The tire savers scrape off the offending article before it has a chance to penetrate. At least, that's the theory. I think they work. That's why I put them on my bike. But your results may vary ...as they say.
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I think they look supermight get me some
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There are other types. People make the mistake of setting them so they rub the tires. They should be set so that they are as close as possible without touching. That way, they don't make an annoying sound and they don't wear away to nothing in a short time.

Italian and French.

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I've tried to score some of those nifty Pelissier models, only to be regularly out bid. Spendy little gizmos, but they're unique and cool.
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@rootboy I sent a PM about buying a set of your tire savers. They are very nice
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Thanks John. Scott
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Originally Posted by Grand Bois View Post
There are other types. People make the mistake of setting them so they rub the tires. They should be set so that they are as close as possible without touching. That way, they don't make an annoying sound and they don't wear away to nothing in a short time.

Italian and French.

Thanks Grand Bois - I had not seen the PNEUDAN model before. Very cool. I sorta collect these things - I like 'em. For the few grams they weigh - if they EVER prevent a flat, they are worth it.

I'm a huge fan of Rootboy, as well. He is willing to custom make them for any application - for example: 650b with fenders.


Scott: I don't know if you want to go into bigger-time production, but you did see Jan Heine's post that he'd sell them through Compass Cycles? LMK if you need that link.
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In the early 1970s our shop sold a bunch of those and I used them on my own bikes. But the "sew-up" tubular tires we were running in those days were very prone to flats and doing all that patching, sewing, and gluing by the roadside was aggravating. So anything that we thought helped in any way was an improvement. We called them "nail-pullers" but primarily I remember that they worked best for glass shards which were common causes of sew-up flats.
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Scott: I don't know if you want to go into bigger-time production, but you did see Jan Heine's post that he'd sell them through Compass Cycles? LMK if you need that link.
Cheers,Alex
Hi Alex, and thanks. Yes, the good Colonel pointed me to Heine's blog post. Wrote him a nice note, complete with pics and descriptions. He never responded. That sort of thing doesn't leave a favorable impression. Oh well. Thanks Alex. Those look nice on your bike.
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