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Old 07-14-12, 07:38 PM
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Honey, I messed up...

I had to confess to my wife while out of town this week over the phone that I had bid on a bike with no reserve at ridiculously low bid and had no one bid against me. When I explained what it was she was actually excited and almost as shocked as I was. Wife and bike are keepers.

Anyway, here it is:



The bike is a 1973 Speedwell currently with First Generation Dura Ace Group except for Campy headset and bottom bracket.

The current plan is to polish it up immediately and convert it to a Campy Record group at some point.
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Old 07-14-12, 07:45 PM
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Nice. Can't wait to see some pictures in better light.

Is that titanium? The fork too?
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Old 07-14-12, 07:51 PM
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They were VERY early ti bikes...maybe the earliest production ti bikes actually.
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Very nice.
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Originally Posted by 4Rings6Stars View Post
Nice. Can't wait to see some pictures in better light.

Is that titanium? The fork too?
Yes, it is titanium. The fork is too.
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Old 07-14-12, 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake View Post
They were VERY early ti bikes...maybe the earliest production ti bikes actually.
From what I have read on the Internet, they may have been the first commercially produced titanium frame. The according to one site, frames were welded in a vacuum chamber. If anyone has more info on the build process, I would love to hear it.
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Curious... What was the ridiculously low bid?

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Originally Posted by knoregs View Post
Curious... What was the ridiculously low bid?

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Found her. I don't know anything about the value of these bikes specifically, but I would say you did pretty well.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Speedwell-Ti...item231f586222
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I've only watched a few auctions of these...that seems about right.
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Looks like it was this auction: https://www.ebay.com/itm/150849741346

More pics here: https://s1259.photobucket.com/albums/ii541/birdooful

Interesting bike, I've always liked the 1st gen. Dura Ace. Strange that it has the Crane GS, when the regular Crane would have probably been better with the corn-cob freewheel. The crank has the holes for the optional chain guard.
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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake View Post
I've only watched a few auctions of these...that seems about right.
Of the other auctions you have seen, are they for frame alone or an entire bike? Are the bikes mostly equipped with Campy groups or Shimano? Have you ever seen any with Mavic groups?
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Old 07-15-12, 06:33 AM
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I think I've seen two...one was frame only, the other was Campy SR. My memory might be off, but a member here bought one of these about 4-5 months ago...but I can't remember which member.
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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake View Post
I think I've seen two...one was frame only, the other was Campy SR. My memory might be off, but a member here bought one of these about 4-5 months ago...but I can't remember which member.
Was the thread you were referring to: https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ght=speedwell?

The Speedwell in the thread above also has Dura Ace components on it, but all the photos I have seen on the web show the bikes with Campy SR. Since you could order the bare frame from Speedwell, I guess either Campy or Shimano are correct. Because most of my bikes are French, it's a personal problem I know, I am kind of partial to Mavic. However, since my Speedwell has a Campagnolo headset and bottom bracket, I think I want to switch it to all Campy.
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That was the one!

I wouldn't worry about what "should" be on it...put on what you want. It's not a sin to build this up with a mixed parts group.
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Just my opinion, but the stuff on there now works better than
the same age Campy stuff, from a purely practical mechanical
standpoint..........which is not to say that the Campy stuff does
not work perfectly adequately.

Whoever set yours up probably did so for this reason.
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That reason was probably price.

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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake View Post
That reason was probably price.
I understand the Campy tax thing, but I already have several of the SR bits in my parts bin and if I complete the group, the Shimano stuff can go to completing my son's Japanese Sekine SHX restoration. This way everyone wins (but my wallet).
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