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neshkadrums 07-15-12 04:03 PM

Galmozzi
 
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Guys is it real or fake Galmozzi ? Thank you in advance.

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1987 07-15-12 04:35 PM

If it's old and dirty with a torn headbadge, then my first guess is that it's the real thing. Why make a replica of something that is not well known and probably a bit harder to sell. But for those who know, you have a jewel - or where are you buying it? :).

Most fake bikes I've seen are from popular and famous brands like Cinelli, Colnago and Pinarello. Especially bikes with decal instead of headbadge. And keep in mind that it was hard to get decals and rare parts before internet, so if the bike is untouched after 1995 it's even more likely to be the real thing.

iab 07-15-12 05:03 PM

Could be real. Hard to tell with the crappy pics. Clear close ups of lugs would help.

Pogliaghi 07-15-12 06:20 PM

From what little can be seen of the lugs and fork crown I would say it looks to be the real thing BUT nothing beats close ups of all the lugs, BB shell, fork crown etc.

Otis 07-15-12 06:35 PM

I would not question it from what I can see there. Looks like a good find.

1987 07-15-12 06:59 PM

Yes, show us some high res photos of the details :)

Highgear 07-15-12 07:21 PM

I knew very little of the galmozzi name untill a few months ago, when i saw one on ebay go for big money. Very collectable for some.

gridplan 07-15-12 08:22 PM

Its lugs, fork crown and crankset look much like those on the late 1950s Galmozzi I bought off of Citoyen du Monde.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7253/7...bb89a721_b.jpg

unworthy1 07-15-12 09:26 PM

better pix would be better, but...sure looks real to me.

repechage 07-15-12 11:35 PM

This is one of those times where if the deal is good enough as just a "bike" or parts, don't dally, buy it.

Munny 07-16-12 09:18 AM

Since without knowing, I transformed lugs to the same look, I'd trust more the "old & dirty" criteria.
In period, good frame makers were used to adapt lugs to the desire of their customers

neshkadrums 08-09-12 08:48 AM

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gomango 08-09-12 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by repechage (Post 14486046)
This is one of those times where if the deal is good enough as just a "bike" or parts, don't dally, buy it.

+1

I'll own one eventually.

Welcome to the op.

dbakl 08-09-12 08:58 AM

Wow, I say grab it! Or tell me where it is, I will. Looks good to me...

Oh, for Galmozzi fans, Velo-Retro.com has a killer T-shirt available, my favorite!

repechage 08-09-12 09:10 AM


Originally Posted by dbakl (Post 14584839)
Wow, I say grab it! Or tell me where it is, I will. Looks good to me...

Oh, for Galmozzi fans, Velo-Retro.com has a killer T-shirt available, my favorite!

Why did the original poster not buy this one yet?

fender1 08-09-12 09:45 AM

My guess is that the OP is the seller and trying to determine value. Most anyone who knows what this is, would have purchased it already.

dbakl 08-09-12 09:53 AM

I have no idea of value, only what I might pay...

jr59 08-09-12 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by dbakl (Post 14585069)
I have no idea of value, only what I might pay...


^^This maybe the truest statement ever made on this subject!

1987 08-09-12 10:37 AM

The rear derailleurs jockey wheels narrows down the time frame.
http://velobase.com/ViewComponent.as...7-FA0AFBA14EE5
"Early version of the Campagnolo Gran Sport rear derailleur. Smooth (non-toothed) jockey wheels."

dbakl 08-09-12 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by 1987 (Post 14585291)
"Early version of the Campagnolo Gran Sport rear derailleur. Smooth (non-toothed) jockey wheels."

Hmm, all the Gran Sports I've seen had round, non-toothed steel wheels. The Record changed to plastic, toothed.

repechage 08-09-12 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by fender1 (Post 14585025)
My guess is that the OP is the seller and trying to determine value. Most anyone who knows what this is, would have purchased it already.

Yes, often what is not said is more useful than what is.
Too bad the original rear rim is gone.

iab 08-09-12 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by 1987 (Post 14585291)
The rear derailleurs jockey wheels narrows down the time frame.
http://velobase.com/ViewComponent.as...7-FA0AFBA14EE5
"Early version of the Campagnolo Gran Sport rear derailleur. Smooth (non-toothed) jockey wheels."

That only narrows it down from 1953-1963. If the RD has a cable adjustment screw, which we can't see from the pics, it would narrow it down to 53-59.

But the skewers are open C. That puts it 53-57.

The lock nut date code can probably narrow it down a bit more.

The problem comes with the shift levers, closed C. 1960 and beyond.

Clearly a mixture of parts added who knows when. But can easily say 50s/early 60s.

The Scheeren rims are probably wood filled and really, really cool. As is the Titan stem with the Maes bars.

Definitely setup for racing.

Otis 08-09-12 06:35 PM

I have a very similar Galmozzi (bought from gridplan) a few months ago. It's also a dog's breakfast of parts, but all of them corresponding to a late 50's build date. Has the same Stronglight Super Competition crankset as the OP's bike. Similar or same color as well, although mine has been re-painted (but re-done early on in its' life as it looks right today).

It's in the middle of an overhaul now but you can see it on gridplan's Flickr gallery as it was when I bought it.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/gridpla...th/6971569192/

10speedterror 08-09-12 09:32 PM

whata gem! i had one of these a few months ago (early 70s i think) i sold it to a friend becuase it was quite a bit too small maybe ill come across a 60cm+ on someday!

neshkadrums 08-28-12 03:27 AM

After the replies from my first post i'm already own the bike.A good friend gifted me because i like it alot and felt something unexplained that touch me in this bike.
Neither he nor I knew anything 'bout frame or parts ( whata shame ).And then i ask here for information.My friend has a bike from his father who died long ago and historical line is broke here.Interesting is that his father was not a cyclist.Mysterious case.
For now i'm not going to sell it.Unfortunately i have almost no knowledge of mechanics
and I could not take care of bike which incidentally has a great ride despite years.


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