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oldroads 02-04-15 06:53 PM

The Chen Shin 27 x 1 3/8 knobbies are a good value. I see them lasting a long time as commuter tires, though they do not fold. They prob retail for $12 max.

dddd 02-05-15 12:30 AM


Originally Posted by oldroads (Post 17529171)
The Chen Shin 27 x 1 3/8 knobbies are a good value. I see them lasting a long time as commuter tires, though they do not fold. They prob retail for $12 max.

Don't you mean Kenda?

I can't remember ever seeing a ChengShin knobby in 27", but perhaps likely Cheng does make the 1-3/8" ClubRoost "inverted"-style knobby?

I've used the Kenda Knobby on the back wheel of my Miyata SixTen tourer. It rode and wore reasonably well but blew out in the center of the tread for unknown reason when the tread was about 2/3 worn. Here it is:

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2410/...802_z.jpg?zz=1

jbchybridrider 02-05-15 12:41 AM

Lots of 27 tires from this joint. >https://www.biketiresdirect.com/prod...rosscyclo-tire

bassogap 02-05-15 03:37 PM

I haven't been completely the same since I stopped riding on the Specialized Expedition 1 3/8 tire...I can't find a smooth replacement.

Curtis Odom 02-05-15 03:56 PM

The Vittoria Zaffiro is a tire tread I designed around 1995. What a trip to still see it around twenty years later.

noglider 02-05-15 04:28 PM

This week, I got an email from loosescrews.com:


We have our own tire! Made by Panaracer in Japan, the 27 x 1 3/8 size also fits common 1 1/4 inch rims. They are folding touring
tires measuring 33mm wide. Light and supple, there are two distinct types, both costing a staggeringly low $31. We want to keep
classic bicycles running and the low price is our way of saying thanks. Here's a secret only for the email list here, it's the same guys
making our tires, that make the custom Panaracer tires for the high end companies that like to charge over $50 for these. Some
are approaching $80 even. That's a lot to pay for special casings when the normal Panaracer ones we use are near perfect
already. Save the money and use the wheels you already have. Great for touring, commuting, and camping. Perfect for restoring
a bike prior to sale. Just search the site for SWT of SwiftTire.

Chrome Molly 02-05-15 05:19 PM


Originally Posted by noglider (Post 17531628)
This week, I got an email from loosescrews.com:

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I'll be ordering a set of the tan sidewall models soon, the related tubes look like a nice product also.

mobilemail 02-05-15 07:08 PM

I picked UPS a stack of NOS Schwinn Passage 27x1-1/4 folding tires. I actually prefer the Panaracers, but rubber at the right price got me.

Darth Lefty 02-25-15 11:24 PM


Originally Posted by Curtis Odom (Post 17531524)
The Vittoria Zaffiro is a tire tread I designed around 1995. What a trip to still see it around twenty years later.

One thing I really enjoy about C&V is the industry vets. I just tried to fit one of these. The Nashbar reviews said it fit really tight. Man, it's no fooling! I marred up the rim and pinched the tube in the process. I might try it tubeless just to offend the maximum number of purists on every side.

Curtis Odom 02-26-15 06:40 AM


Originally Posted by Darth Lefty (Post 17585970)
One thing I really enjoy about C&V is the industry vets. I just tried to fit one of these. The Nashbar reviews said it fit really tight. Man, it's no fooling! I marred up the rim and pinched the tube in the process. I might try it tubeless just to offend the maximum number of purists on every side.

Hah, you can only blame me for the tread pattern!

Barrettscv 11-07-15 08:56 AM

Soma has a tan wall 27 inch tire made by Panaracer, anyone using it?

Soma New Xpress 27" Skinwall Tire

noglider 11-07-15 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by mobilemail (Post 17532065)
I picked UPS a stack of NOS Schwinn Passage 27x1-1/4 folding tires. I actually prefer the Panaracers, but rubber at the right price got me.

Schwinn tires were made by Panaracer in the 80's. Are these not? What are they like?

Those Soma tires look the same as Paselas. Is there reason to justify the higher price?

mainstreetexile 11-07-15 12:23 PM


Originally Posted by Barrettscv (Post 18301285)
Soma has a tan wall 27 inch tire made by Panaracer, anyone using it?

Soma New Xpress 27" Skinwall Tire

Yeah, these look identical to the pasela tourguards. I guess they charge extra for the Soma logo and kanji on the side :)

http://i.imgur.com/A1IC5IM.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/daGNHXC.jpg

Looks like the images in my original post have gone away thanks to imageshack jumping the shark and switching to a paid-only service. I'll work on updating them to use a different host and add in the newer 27" tire offerings.

The Golden Boy 11-07-15 02:08 PM


Originally Posted by mainstreetexile (Post 18301616)


Looks like the images in my original post have gone away thanks to imageshack jumping the shark and switching to a paid-only service. I'll work on updating them to use a different host and add in the newer 27" tire offerings.

Did you get the email about your "abandoned account" recently?


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Yay Imageshack- they've already ****ed with picture sizes, ****ed with picture orientation and now you won't be able to link to the pix? Good bye and good riddance you clowns.

The Golden Boy 11-07-15 02:10 PM

And for the 27" tire thread- these are a couple of my posts from another thread about tires



http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/...ps8y8t3ndt.jpg[/URL]
http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/...psnikzthtc.jpg

I have the tires mounted on some Super Champion (I assume Modele 58) rims- and for comparison porpoises, a Pasela PT or TG or whatever on a Wolber Model 58:

http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/...psw9jlsd0o.jpg[/URL]
http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/...psbhj4rvad.jpg[/URL]
http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/...pskmfwmi7k.jpg[/URL]
http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/...psrsrukrhw.jpg

mobilemail 11-08-15 07:05 AM


Originally Posted by noglider (Post 18301549)
Schwinn tires were made by Panaracer in the 80's. Are these not? What are they like?

Those Soma tires look the same as Paselas. Is there reason to justify the higher price?

I looked at the tires, there is no identification on them as to the manufacturer. They are marked Schwinn Passage LF and Dual Hardness. They are a true tan skinwall with a reddish color at the bead. The tread is the 80s-ish thin, slightly raised rib in the center with herringbone on either side. They are also marked 270-gram. The tread is pretty thin, I doubt if it would be more than a 3000 mile tire. As for the ride quality...I don't know yet. I bought them right after I put a new set of Paselas on my touring bike and I haven't had to mount them up. Come to think of it, that touring bike (Schwinn Voyageur) needs some more road time!

Vintage Raleigh 11-08-15 07:22 AM

I have a pair of Schwalbe Active with the tan sidewalls and puncture protection. While not exactly a fast tyre they have been getting a lot of use. A combination of too much air pressure and a 700c tube forced the tyre off the rim after an hours ride when first fitted. Replaced the tube with a 27 x 1 1/4 and the with the pressure at 60 have had no issues. Pulled an industrial staple out of the tread a few weeks ago thinking it would puncture but so far so good.

noglider 11-08-15 04:25 PM

@mobilemail if you post a picture, I might be able to make a good guess of who made them. If you care.

mobilemail 11-08-15 06:00 PM

4 Attachment(s)

Originally Posted by noglider (Post 18303786)
@mobilemail if you post a picture, I might be able to make a good guess of who made them. If you care.

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=486896http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=486897http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=486898http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=486899

Here ya go!

Lazyass 01-13-16 07:56 PM

Unless I missed it I don't think the Nashbar Prima 2 Plus has been mentioned. 280 grams for the 1 1/4.

Mountain Bike Tires | Road Bike Tires | Bike Nashbar

Darth Lefty 02-27-16 01:11 PM

Since I grabbed a 2016 Panaracer catalog I went through it for 27's

Pasela PT with "400D Lite Extra Cord" and "PT Belt," each in tanwall with aramid or wire bead
25-630 27 x 1, 250/310 g, max 115 psi
28-630 27 x 1 1/8, 270/330, 105
32-630 27 x 1 1/4, 350/410, 95

Pasela with "400D Lite Extra Cord" in all-black or tanwall with wire bead
25-630 27 x 1, 290, max 115 psi
28-630 27 x 1 1/8, 320, 105
32-630 27 x 1 1/4, 390, 95

stardognine 02-27-16 03:55 PM

I've been running a pair of those "cheap" Kenda 1 3/8" knobbies this winter, and like them a lot. :) They came in like new condition, on a $20 Schwinn, so the Schwinn was basically free. Hey, what does a 27" x 1 3/8" equate to in metric size, like a 35 centimeter?

dddd 02-27-16 11:25 PM


Originally Posted by stardognine (Post 18569174)
I've been running a pair of those "cheap" Kenda 1 3/8" knobbies this winter, and like them a lot. :) They came in like new condition, on a $20 Schwinn, so the Schwinn was basically free. Hey, what does a 27" x 1 3/8" equate to in metric size, like a 35 centimeter?

Converting 1-3/8" to metric gives 35mm, but as with most 1-1/4" tires, they measure much smaller than listed.

Those Kenda 1-3/8" tires should measure about 30mm wide on a 22mm rim. Typical 1-1/4" tires measure 28-29mm on a 22mm rim, but Michelin World Tour and Panaracer Pasela 27x1-1/4" tires measure true to size (about 32mm), so are relatively huge compared to their competitors.
A 1" Pasela is as wide as most 1-1/8" tires, about 26mm on a 22mm rim.

stardognine 02-27-16 11:48 PM


Originally Posted by dddd (Post 18570031)
Converting 1-3/8" to metric gives 35mm, but as with most 1-1/4" tires, they measure much smaller than listed.

Those Kenda 1-3/8" tires should measure about 30mm wide on a 22mm rim. Typical 1-1/4" tires measure 28-29mm on a 22mm rim, but Michelin World Tour and Panaracer Pasela 27x1-1/4" tires measure true to size (about 32mm), so are relatively huge compared to their competitors.
A 1" Pasela is as wide as most 1-1/8" tires, about 26mm on a 22mm rim.

Thanks for clarifying that for me. :) I have some 27" Armadillos, for better weather, but I'd be happy with either Michelins or Paselas, as replacements.

Lazyass 02-28-16 06:34 AM


Originally Posted by dddd (Post 18570031)
Panaracer Pasela 27x1-1/4" tires measure true to size (about 32mm)

Mine run small, they measured out to just over over 30c. The Bell tires that were replaced were the same size and measured 32c and were noticeably bigger.

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i2...psq4pss9mr.jpg

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i2...psj6bxhst3.jpg

dailycommute 02-28-16 05:12 PM

Hey GB, did you ever get a fender mounted on those Sand Canyons? I assume probably not, or at least without modifying the fender mount higher. I really like the look of the SC tread. Having said that I just mounted the latest iteration of the 27 1/4 Continental tour ride. The tire seems to have changed radically in last few years, but was cheap and is narrow enough to where I could mount it with fenders. Will test it soon and report back. I picked this one b/c there are some really rotten roads around here and sand, gravel, huge cracks, etc are the norm a good part of the year. So really I like a good tread similar to what is on those sand canyons but also need fenders.

dddd 02-28-16 09:22 PM

That 30mm seems really small for a Pasela 1-1/4" tire. Can I assume you're using narrow (19-20mm) rims? How about inflation pressure?

I always use a 22mm Mod58 rim for my 27" tire test-fits, and I got 32mm at 90psi after the inflated new tire had settled for an hour on a warm day.

30mm is still at least as wide as the 1-3/8" knobbies though, and wider than the 1-1/4" Aramdillos.

Lazyass 02-29-16 04:50 AM


Originally Posted by dddd (Post 18572013)
That 30mm seems really small for a Pasela 1-1/4" tire. Can I assume you're using narrow (19-20mm) rims? How about inflation pressure?

I always use a 22mm Mod58 rim for my 27" tire test-fits, and I got 32mm at 90psi after the inflated new tire had settled for an hour on a warm day.

30mm is still at least as wide as the 1-3/8" knobbies though, and wider than the 1-1/4" Aramdillos.

The rims are 22mm. 85psi.

T Stew 03-26-16 09:38 AM

I'm looking for some Paselas in 27 1-1/4" folding for backup on my touring setup. I can't seem to find them anywhere. Any clues? I think I stumbled over the folding Pasela in 1-1/8", guess for backup purposes that would suffice, but just wondering if anyone has seen the 1-1/4s lately. The sand canyon 1-3/8 looks very interesting but not only are most of my rides on pavement, they're mostly on fresh paved rail trails, so don't need an aggressive tire, at least for now.

jet sanchEz 08-10-16 10:13 PM

I'm also looking for the Paselas in 27 X 1-1/4, none of the U.K. Sites seem to carry them where are you guys ordering them from?


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