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Old 07-31-12, 12:18 PM
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Newbaums tape fade?

Haven't used cotton for a long time. I read some reviews on Amazon; does this need to be shellaced to be color fast? I expect some fade over time but apparently some have experienced very rapid fade without shellac. I'd prefer info based on personal experience.

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Old 07-31-12, 12:46 PM
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If you ride your bike, you'll need to worry about replacing it due to wear before the color fades. I wouldn't worry about it. That said, I do shellac my cotton tape wraps.
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I prefer unshellacked bar tape. The color fades a little, but it's more comfortable and grippy. I have not noticed very fast fading on cotton bar tapeat all. The bar tape does get a little gungy if you get grease on your hands, however.
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Note that shellac alters the color of cotton bar tape (which seems to be what you're trying to prevent).
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A lot of this will depend on what you do with the bike. Do you keep in indoors and take it out to ride for a couple hours at a time? Are you a college kid who leaves it locked up in the sun, sleet, rain and snow 24/7? These will yield very different results.
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Old 07-31-12, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by due ruote View Post
...... Are you a college kid.....
If only! Bring on the time machine!

Thanks all for the info, getting some Newbaums yellow, just thought I'd clarify the fade question, no problems expected as its not going on a daily rider.
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I put the red cloth table on one of my bikes in March and it was faded to a light pink on the tops of the bars within a couple of months - maybe 1200 miles later. I did notice that a substantial amount of color loss occurred after the first time I washed the bike. That may have been a mistake, but I was more interested in having it clean than having it red.

It may be hard to make out , but the picture below was taken when the tape about about a month and a half old. The tape used to be pretty much the same shade as the cable housings, and it is already significantly lighter in the photo. While the drops have faded to a dark pink, the tops are already quite light. I'd take another picture for you, but I had the tape changed out a couple of weeks ago. It was almost white on the top.


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After years of bare cloth soon-faded tape I'm sold on shellac. The tape lasts for years and looks good the entire time. It looks like clear shellac doesn't change the color of yellow that much.
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I rode with cloth tape for years between the 70s and 00s, never heard of using shellac. What does it buy you other than making your tape job more expensive and time-consuming? Does it preserve the tape in some way? I'm about to put some cloth Newbaum's on my Masi, so if I should be treating it with something, I'm all ears.

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Originally Posted by smontanaro View Post
I rode with cloth tape for years between the 70s and 00s, never heard of using shellac. What does it buy you other than making your tape job more expensive and time-consuming? Does it preserve the tape in some way? I'm about to put some cloth Newbaum's on my Masi, so if I should be treating it with something, I'm all ears.

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Like you, I used cloth for years and never heard of using shellac. I think it's more of a constructeur thing and not a part of the legacy of racing. Strictly speaking, bare cloth, Benotto or Bike Ribbon would probably be more "correct" for your Masi. That said, shellac has crossed over and a lot of people use it on their classic race bikes. It does deepen/alter the color of the tape, more or less depending on whether you use clear or amber, or a combination of those; and on the number of coats. It will definitely prolong the life of the tape, protect it to some degree from getting dirty, and make it more washable.

Personally, I prefer the look and feel of bare tape, but nevertheless I do occasionally employ shellac to get the tone I want. I don't like it, though, when it gets too thick. About 3 coats is perfect imho, but this is strictly personal preference - some others like up to 7 or 8 coats.
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Old 08-01-12, 11:29 AM
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I like the grippiness of bare cloth tape - that, and the sleekness of tight-wound thin cotton vs. cork tape, along with a particularly good colour match, are why I went with Newbaums cotton to replace the tape on one of my bikes. Just arrived! I'd be concerned about the texture change adding shellac (though I can see the advantages). I'll find out about the alleged tendency to fade soon, I guess. In any case, just a little fade will make a pretty fine colour match just a little finer, so I'm not too worried...
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Old 08-01-12, 12:05 PM
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I use two layers of cloth tape and seal w/ clear shellac. I like the fact that the shellac helps in keeping things clean, as Due Route mentioned above. I recently had to do roadside repair to a bike that I used yellow Newbaums on, w/ 3 coats of clear shellac. I was distracted, in a hurry and had nothing to really clean my hands with. The bar tape ended up with quite a bit of sweaty, greasy grime on it. When I got home, I hit it with some simple green & water. Cleaned up easy and when it was dry, threw another coat of shellac on it. Looks fine.
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