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Old 10-10-19, 01:45 AM
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These just arrived after a long wait from Poland. Im keen to try them as I like spending most of my time riding on the bar ends. They seem good quality, no play in the spring loaded lever pivot.

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All this, Dura Ace 7400 groupset and Dura Ace 7700 groupset. Some extra odds and ends. There's a NOS set of 7700 hubs in the bunch and mint looking 7400 hubs. The hubs alone are worth what I paid for all of it, if not more. Nice stash of parts that can be used to keep several of my ol' rides going.

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Originally Posted by jbchybridrider
These just arrived after a long wait from Poland. Im keen to try them as I like spending most of my time riding on the bar ends. They seem good quality, no play in the spring loaded lever pivot.

They are convenient. Have the Tektro lever ends on a loaner MTB. Odd looking from all angles but work well.


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More Tape

Got some more white Tressostar tape - just in case. It's been hard to find reasonably-priced white version lately.
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Not exactly "today," but I finally got around to installing the downtube decals which I'd purchased back in January:



I had wrecked the first set, and was so nervous about messing up a second time that it took me a long while to get up the courage for the second attempt. The bike still needs some tweaks. The housing loops are much too big and the Benotto tape needs to be rewrapped, but it's very close.
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Originally Posted by crank_addict


CLB Professional

Very nice CLBs! Just perfect for a weight weenie build, especially if it's on a French bike.
You can really go to the 9's with the CLBs if you use their aluminum cased brake cables,.....but be forwarned, the aluminum cased CLB brake cables give a very squishy feel to the brakes because of compressibility, and I'd only use it on bikes that will not see too much riding on hills and mountains.....
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Originally Posted by Chombi1
Very nice CLBs! Just perfect for a weight weenie build, especially if it's on a French bike.
You can really go to the 9's with the CLBs if you use their aluminum cased brake cables,.....but be forwarned, the aluminum cased CLB brake cables give a very squishy feel to the brakes because of compressibility, and I'd only use it on bikes that will not see too much riding on hills and mountains.....
Interesting feedback on the ally cables. Hindsight I should have purchased a NOS set last year for pittance but I guess won't miss them that much.

Anyways, these brakes were going for a planned French lightweight but changed plans and being fitted to a PSV10. Out were the factory supplied Weinmann, then installed the CLB (believe GL type) and now to the Professional. Really impressed how well the GL performed and will keep for another project.

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Found a French write up on CLB (translated).

A firm with world renown since in the years 1960-1970 the American market was in strong demand from where a commercialization of CLB products with in some cases a specific brand (Evian)
To date, a quick search on the European basis shows 21 patents in the name of Angenieux CLB, mainly for 2 applications braking (and in the 1970s we find the development of CLB2 which we will discuss later) but also concerning bicycle frame assembly with the partnership with Vitus (the mythical 979)
Brakes much sought after at a time when the search for relief was an absolute obession (although at the expense of safety because we must recognize the power was not their strong point design requires for the first generations)
Brakes

3 models will be detailed, an article on the precursor racer model will probably be realized in the coming weeks
GL model
The first being the GL model , personally the one I had the opportunity to test at the time. This is the most widespread CLB and remained a standard until the early 1990s.
It is a side pull system of simple pivot type

The alloy used is a silicon grade aluminum (13% in this grade hence the name AS13 in the commercial references) widely used at that time in the foundry. The know-how of angénieux CLB was a perfect mastery of the molding by shell from where the use of this shade of aluminum (the presence of silicon was particularly adapted to such a technique of implementation).

In view of today it is an alloy having average mechanical properties in comparison with aluminum zinc or magnesium.

Thus the elastic resistance (Rp0.2) is for this grade around 80-100MPa , a 5086 135 MPa alloy , a 6061T6 240MPa and finally the 7075T6 480MPa ( why choose the other 3 grades for this comparison ? , simply because they have been democratized with the development of aluminum frames, the 5086 in the 90s the owners of peugeot will surely remember, the 6061 after that I remember very well my caad3 from Cannondale late 90s and finally the 7075 )

This does not mean, however, that without design changes we would have a 4 times stiffer set by choosing the 7075 vs the AS13 (equivalent design rigidity mainly depends on the young module which is very close for all families of alloys. ). To be simple, the Young's modulus corresponds to the link between the stress exerted and the elongation in the elastic domain, so we can say that it is a coefficient of rigidity ( it gives me an idea to make an article of democratization of the choice materials and main criteria "mechanical )

But this would either refine the elements (so additional weight gain) or change the design (increase sections to limit bending) while maintaining the current weight by reducing the thickness of materials.

In this case, however, we must completely review the manufacturing process, we guess that the strength of CLB (shell molding) involved the use of nuances now outdated, which today would be a handicap (the solutions used are focused on the forging or the machining in the mass). For information, the latest marketed light solutions (for example the EE Cycle Works brakes or the KCNC B1) are made of aluminum 7075T6

The second is the professional model that retains the principle of GL but with a desire to lighten the whole by the use of zycral (aluminum alloy zinc also called 7075 used later for the design of frames in the 90s before advent of carbons) or titanium. The result is spectacular with calipers depending on the series that can go below 100g! (especially in compact version)

The third finally new generation CLB2 race (and CLB1 from the 80s)
Developed in the 70s (the French patents are respectively 1971 and 1972), it is a profound change with passage to the central draw (return to this technique used at the time of the racer). The weight is announced around 160g (vs 120 for the professional model) but a higher efficiency (hence the slogan 2 times more effective!)

Unfortunately the company Angénieux CLB no longer exists, the latest brake models were marketed in the early 90s. Let us mention for example CLB Omega (more than neighbor of the GL no?)
For the rest the end is "tragic" with
- a purchase in 1985 by sachs (which at the time bought the "small craftsmen" french as mate or huret) we could have a second large group in europe (in addition to campagnolo) to compete with the Japanese shimano (sachs being German but with mainly French manufacturing on the cycle part)

- but in 1987 Sachs is bought by Mannessman with a reorganization of the activity and to finish in 1991 by ceasing small ex-French activities. End of the adventure for CLB!
These are also technical choices that condemned CLB, for example having never proposed a double pivot system (see shimano one of the precursors in the field) or a manufacturing method that has not evolved.







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For the time being, I'm done with tubes of glue and the shipping of them.


For the cost of 5 little tubes AND free shipping to boot.
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^^^^ Yeah, my favorite. I'm on my second can. After opening, store it upside down so the volatile compounds don't burn off and allow the glue to harden.
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A bill.
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sorry, I feel you. But was quite fun to see your answer
Mine was the gas bill but it was less than $13 so I got lucky since I haven't spared the heater.

I expected over $20 more so that means I got good news in the mail!
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Originally Posted by crank_addict
Interesting feedback on the ally cables. Hindsight I should have purchased a NOS set last year for pittance but I guess won't miss them that much.

Anyways, these brakes were going for a planned French lightweight but changed plans and being fitted to a PSV10. Out were the factory supplied Weinmann, then installed the CLB (believe GL type) and now to the Professional. Really impressed how well the GL performed and will keep for another project.

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Found a French write up on CLB (translated).

A firm with world renown since in the years 1960-1970 the American market was in strong demand from where a commercialization of CLB products with in some cases a specific brand (Evian)
To date, a quick search on the European basis shows 21 patents in the name of Angenieux CLB, mainly for 2 applications braking (and in the 1970s we find the development of CLB2 which we will discuss later) but also concerning bicycle frame assembly with the partnership with Vitus (the mythical 979)
Brakes much sought after at a time when the search for relief was an absolute obession (although at the expense of safety because we must recognize the power was not their strong point design requires for the first generations)
Brakes

3 models will be detailed, an article on the precursor racer model will probably be realized in the coming weeks
GL model
The first being the GL model , personally the one I had the opportunity to test at the time. This is the most widespread CLB and remained a standard until the early 1990s.
It is a side pull system of simple pivot type

The alloy used is a silicon grade aluminum (13% in this grade hence the name AS13 in the commercial references) widely used at that time in the foundry. The know-how of angénieux CLB was a perfect mastery of the molding by shell from where the use of this shade of aluminum (the presence of silicon was particularly adapted to such a technique of implementation).

In view of today it is an alloy having average mechanical properties in comparison with aluminum zinc or magnesium.

Thus the elastic resistance (Rp0.2) is for this grade around 80-100MPa , a 5086 135 MPa alloy , a 6061T6 240MPa and finally the 7075T6 480MPa ( why choose the other 3 grades for this comparison ? , simply because they have been democratized with the development of aluminum frames, the 5086 in the 90s the owners of peugeot will surely remember, the 6061 after that I remember very well my caad3 from Cannondale late 90s and finally the 7075 )

This does not mean, however, that without design changes we would have a 4 times stiffer set by choosing the 7075 vs the AS13 (equivalent design rigidity mainly depends on the young module which is very close for all families of alloys. ). To be simple, the Young's modulus corresponds to the link between the stress exerted and the elongation in the elastic domain, so we can say that it is a coefficient of rigidity ( it gives me an idea to make an article of democratization of the choice materials and main criteria "mechanical )

But this would either refine the elements (so additional weight gain) or change the design (increase sections to limit bending) while maintaining the current weight by reducing the thickness of materials.

In this case, however, we must completely review the manufacturing process, we guess that the strength of CLB (shell molding) involved the use of nuances now outdated, which today would be a handicap (the solutions used are focused on the forging or the machining in the mass). For information, the latest marketed light solutions (for example the EE Cycle Works brakes or the KCNC B1) are made of aluminum 7075T6

The second is the professional model that retains the principle of GL but with a desire to lighten the whole by the use of zycral (aluminum alloy zinc also called 7075 used later for the design of frames in the 90s before advent of carbons) or titanium. The result is spectacular with calipers depending on the series that can go below 100g! (especially in compact version)

The third finally new generation CLB2 race (and CLB1 from the 80s)
Developed in the 70s (the French patents are respectively 1971 and 1972), it is a profound change with passage to the central draw (return to this technique used at the time of the racer). The weight is announced around 160g (vs 120 for the professional model) but a higher efficiency (hence the slogan 2 times more effective!)

Unfortunately the company Angénieux CLB no longer exists, the latest brake models were marketed in the early 90s. Let us mention for example CLB Omega (more than neighbor of the GL no?)
For the rest the end is "tragic" with
- a purchase in 1985 by sachs (which at the time bought the "small craftsmen" french as mate or huret) we could have a second large group in europe (in addition to campagnolo) to compete with the Japanese shimano (sachs being German but with mainly French manufacturing on the cycle part)

- but in 1987 Sachs is bought by Mannessman with a reorganization of the activity and to finish in 1991 by ceasing small ex-French activities. End of the adventure for CLB!
These are also technical choices that condemned CLB, for example having never proposed a double pivot system (see shimano one of the precursors in the field) or a manufacturing method that has not evolved.







Thank you for the great info on CLB.
As you noted, the brakes are perfect for Vitus frame builds and that's what I did on my Vitus Plus Carbone 7. Installing the CLB Pro brakes on it got it down to its present weenie weight of 16.73 pounds. Still looking for a proper Stronglight Ti BB to get the weight to the low 16's or high 15's and finish off the weenie build.
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Originally Posted by Chombi1
Thank you for the great info on CLB.
As you noted, the brakes are perfect for Vitus frame builds and that's what I did on my Vitus Plus Carbone 7. Installing the CLB Pro brakes on it got it down to its present weenie weight of 16.73 pounds. Still looking for a proper Stronglight Ti BB to get the weight to the low 16's or high 15's and finish off the weenie build.

Envious! That is a well thought build and presents wicked cool.

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The CLB 'GL' set removed from the PSV10. I just swapped to the CLB Professional and will admit there is little difference. Both have stock pads, equal performance, and weight is a slight nod to the Professional. The leverage feels the same too. Cable to arm reciprocated.

But.... drum roll, please.. The Pug is now exactly 21 lbs. Not an oz. + or -. Stock French parts of the era, no light fasteners or drillium. FMB rubber is on the wish list to replace the temp Vitt Rally tubulars.

CLB 'GL' brakeset




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A GB Nova Stem and "Viking" Handlebar in beautiful condition...a bit of polishing and my first British item purchase. They are exquisite in my opinion.

It might have to go on my soon-to-be arriving Cassani oddity...

Oh...and nice pink T-Mobile Shimano pedals for BC Awareness month!

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@jdawginsc Those BC pedals are pretty awesome.
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