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Old 08-20-12, 08:52 PM
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Need help identifying Colnago

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/5tjpahzdnxv1pvq/6aDP7YgNOW

I recently got this frame but I'm having trouble figuring out approximately what year it's from. The seller identified it as a Mexico from the mid-80s. As you can see in the photos, the top tube and down tube are crimped, however, there's a decal that says "Colnago Super."

I'm trying to build this bike up so that it's somewhat accurate to the era it's from and my LBS is helping me out with that. One thing we're trying to figure out is how many speeds should be in the back. They said that the 130mm spacing seems to indicate 10 speeds. Is this accurate?

Any help with either of my questions would be really appreciated, thanks.
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Old 08-20-12, 09:25 PM
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There are some very knowledgable folks here on the Forums, but until they post...

The square brake boss w/recess, the "Colnago" stamped chain stay and the cable routing on underside of BB, seem to point to 1982/83. I'd look more at the features and design than the decals, as those are easily changed along the way, so who knows if the Super was added by a previous owner.

I don't have a Colnago catalog from that time period, but a web search will probably turn something up so that you might be able to identify the model frame based on the details.

Also, there is a likelihood that the the stays may have been respaced to 130mm.

Sorry I can't be more help, but I'm sure someone will post more info.


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Old 08-21-12, 12:01 AM
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Circa 1983 Colnago Nuovo Mexico (that is if there's chrome head lugs and rear triangle underneath the repaint). In it's original guise, it would've looked something like this:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/3033102...7624296124861/

The split-casing cable guides on the underside of the top tube were added when the paint was re-done. Originally there would've been two cable guides brazed onto the top of the top tube.

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Old 08-24-12, 01:46 PM
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Thanks for the help. I'm new to this so I have to ask, why would somebody move the cable guides to the underside of the top tube? Is this just a matter of taste?
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Old 08-24-12, 02:00 PM
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Could be taste, or they could have been damaged or rusted.
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Old 09-11-12, 09:21 PM
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That "Colnago Super" decal is starting to drive me nuts. In addition to looking like it was applied in a pretty sloppy manner, it's also inaccurate. The fork could also use some love. Are there good places in the states to get a Colnago repainted and a fork chromed? In New York City would be especially nice.
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Old 09-11-12, 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by blim8183 View Post
That "Colnago Super" decal is starting to drive me nuts. In addition to looking like it was applied in a pretty sloppy manner, it's also inaccurate.
My '83(?) Colnago that I bought new came w/ 'Superissimo' decals on it. IIRC...there were two. One on each side of the top tube. I thought they looked cheap so I removed them & the seat tube decal also. It looks almost identical to yours' except I have SL tubing & the lugs are chromed, as is the fork crown & Campy dropouts. The blades are painted. All the stampings are identical to yours', but I have no braze-on for the FD. Another member has one identical to mine, which he claims is an '83. So I figured mine must be of the same.

When I first got it, I built it up w/ a combination of Campy NR & SR compnts, but later went to Ergo when it 1st came out, necessitating a whole new drivetrain & wheels. Been thinking of a makeover lately since it's been set-up like his for awhile...?

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Originally Posted by Drillium Dude View Post
Circa 1983 Colnago Nuovo Mexico (that is if there's chrome head lugs and rear triangle underneath the repaint). In it's original guise, it would've looked something like this:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/3033102...7624296124861/

The split-casing cable guides on the underside of the top tube were added when the paint was re-done. Originally there would've been two cable guides brazed onto the top of the top tube.

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Sounds about right. I just found this '85 Nuovo Mexico https://www.velociao.com/2011/colnago-nuovo-mexico-1985/ that looks just like my frame as well, minus the cable guides on the top tube (which are really starting to bum me out). I guess if anybody asks, I'll tell them it's a mid-80's Nuovo Mexico.
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Old 10-24-12, 03:25 PM
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hi
can you help me identify this one?
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Late-70s Super, repainted. The giveaways are: long-flute seatstay caps that do not have "Colnago" engravings, BB shell cutout shape (underneath that plastic cable guide will be a clover cutout with a pointy stem), frame built for nutted brakes, clover cutout in fork stiffening tangs, Campy 1010B (short) dropouts, semi-sloping fork crown with clover and "Colnago" engraving.

Surely a repaint as the fork crown would've most likely been chromed and the over-the-BB-shell guides were removed (and the top-of-driveside-chainstay RD cable stop was moved to the bottom). Someone added an FD braze-on, too.

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Old 10-25-12, 07:26 AM
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thanks.. i trust your judgement 100&
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Drillium Dude, how about this one? Is it a Mexico, or a Super? Thanks!

52 cm Vintage 1982 Colnago Mexico Campagnolo Super Record | eBay
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I may be the guy that claimed mine to be a 1983. It is based on the PAT on the RD and the other features:
[IMG]1983 Colnago Superissimo by superissimo_83, on Flickr[/IMG]
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Old 11-12-14, 06:57 AM
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1983 (almost positive) Nuovo Mexico for reference. I don't believe chromed stays/fork/lugs can be used as hard and fast rules in the same way that, say, seat stay caps and fork crowns can be.



Colnago Catalog 1982-1983 | saarf.net
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Old 11-12-14, 08:04 AM
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I agree, mostly. Sometimes I think the only difference in some of the models were the paint schemes. You may not notice it but my fork is chrome too. Debated about removing the paint but then it would be screwing with the patina or adding significant amount of patina in one place!
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