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zmensing 09-03-12 11:12 AM

Garage Queen Team Miyata
 
After searching for about a year and a half, finally found my Team! My size, flawless (almost) shape, and all original setup. Couldn't be happier! Now to switch out the pedals and go for a ride! Pretty sure this beauty has been a garage queen for about the last 20 years, hardly any wear and tear, just a few paint chips on the fork, that's about all! The guy (who was super nice) even had the original receipt!


http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8459/7...ccf8b74a_c.jpg

big chainring 09-03-12 11:37 AM

Garage Queen Team Miyata
 
Looks fantastic! Give us a ride report.

John E 09-03-12 11:48 AM

I would re-route the brake cables behind the handlebar. Otherwise, A+.

flash2070 09-03-12 11:56 AM

Beautiful Miyata! Congratulations!

Flash

Bikedued 09-03-12 12:12 PM

NICE find!!

I have never ever ever ever seen aero brake cables routed behind the bar, until the last few years when the shifter cables started being routed on the same path under the wrap. And for an 89ish model, it would be pretty much incorrect to route them behind IMHO?,,,,BD

OTS 09-03-12 12:27 PM

Wow ! Very very nice
Congrats

anixi 09-03-12 12:49 PM

On my shimergo setup, I've got bars that have two channels for the aero cables. It was pretty obvious which cable went inside and which went outside, but the two channels worked very well. I'm sure it's common practice, just the first time I've had the opportunity for me to use such a system. I believe that the aero brake levers cable exit should dictate which side of the bar should be used.

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Originally Posted by Bikedued (Post 14686483)
NICE find!!

I have never ever ever ever seen aero brake cables routed behind the bar, until the last few years when the shifter cables started being routed on the same path under the wrap. And for an 89ish model, it would be pretty much incorrect to route them behind IMHO?,,,,BD


the lobster 09-03-12 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bikedued (Post 14686483)
I have never ever ever ever seen aero brake cables routed behind the bar, until the last few years when the shifter cables started being routed on the same path under the wrap. And for an 89ish model, it would be pretty much incorrect to route them behind IMHO?,,,,BD

I think you are correct but them stem is long enough that the longer I look at it, the stranger it looks, esp. The front. Routing behind the bar may make it look cleaner? normal? I don't know what word I'm looking for.

KonAaron Snake 09-03-12 01:20 PM

Looks fantastic - and fortunately not one of the internal routing frames. Team Miyatas seem so hard to find in comparison to rarer Italian stuff.

zmensing 09-03-12 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake (Post 14686658)
Looks fantastic - and fortunately not one of the internal routing frames. Team Miyatas seem so hard to find in comparison to rarer Italian stuff.

Thanks! Yeah, based on some of the issues I'd read about, I had been trying to avoid those. Better safe than sorry. I had seem a fair number here and there, but never the right combo of size, closeness, price, and condition. Of course, with this one I'll notice every new chip and scrape I put on it and be sad, but at least it's not NOS where I'd REALLY notice.

zmensing 09-03-12 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by big chainring (Post 14686373)
Looks fantastic! Give us a ride report.

Ride is really great. Really really solid. Bike tracks amazingly, you point, it goes and keeps going. I thought it felt a little sluggish yesterday on the test ride, but today before I went out I inflated the tires and they'd only had like 30 PSI in them, which certainly wasn't helping anything. Didn't feel sluggish today. But yeah, solid, responsive, smooth, good braking. Will probably disassemble to re-grease everything, but hey, that's part of the fun, right? Some new bar tape, maybe a shorter stem (agree with the post above about it looking really long - it is indeed), but other than that, she's ready to ride!

Reynolds 753 09-03-12 01:58 PM

Miyata's are awesome bikes, congratulations.

rekmeyata 09-03-12 02:24 PM

Great find indeed! Those are fantastic bikes, in my opinion the best frames made at the time and maybe even now! As you may know I own a 87 Team I bought new and it's been a great bike. The frame is the splined triple butted Miyata tubing that at some point Columbus copied it when they came out with their SLX tubes. While not an ultralight tubeset, the spline engineering allowed the frame to be stiffer so it would have little bottom bracket flexing that was prevalent in non splined tubing, but that spline made the frame a tad heavier then non-splined tubing.

My bike's coloring is similar to yours except sort of reversed, and my decals are yellow. The only change I did in ascetics is change the black cable housings to yellow to match the decals, and I replaced the black stem with a silver one and black seat to white and white hoods from black. I don't like a lot of black on my bikes.

Yours is a 1990 Team in case you didn't know. Yours appears to be in fantastic condition too. Congrats.

Chombi 09-03-12 07:22 PM

Nice Miyata!, It looks NOS! You should have a lot of enjoyable riding years with that bike!
Regarding the brake cable routing on the bars, unless there are grooves on the handlebars for them, the position of the brake cables under the bar tape is totally up to what the rider prefers. I always put them behind the bars ever since I started using aero levers on my bikes back in the mid 80's, I've always done it that way on my bikes since because I just like the way they feel to my hands as they end up providing a comfortable flattish area on which my palms rest on when I'm on the tops and the clean curve of the bar in front conforms better to my fingers when I grip the bar when routed that way and having the cables come out at the back of the bar slightly minimizes the length and bend that the cables have to do to get to the front caliper and towards the front most cable guide on the TT.

Chombi

Amesja 09-03-12 07:34 PM

The cables should come out of the tape at the bottom of the bar with that long stem. It just looks "pulled" the way they are now. Maybe that is how they did aero cable routing back in the pilgrim days. But people have learned better after a few years of doing it.

rekmeyata 09-03-12 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Amesja (Post 14687798)
The cables should come out of the tape at the bottom of the bar with that long stem. It just looks "pulled" the way they are now. Maybe that is how they did aero cable routing back in the pilgrim days. But people have learned better after a few years of doing it.

No it's not pulled, that's the way they did it back then.

JesusBananas 09-04-12 12:55 AM

Oooh, lovely lovely bike.

I'm interested to see closeups of the saddle; the texture of it makes it look like wood grain, and it even seems to match the fence behind it. ;)

Bianchigirll 09-04-12 03:54 AM

Great looking Miyata

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Originally Posted by John E (Post 14686404)
I would re-route the brake cables behind the handlebar. Otherwise, A+.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bikedued (Post 14686483)
NICE find!!

I have never ever ever ever seen aero brake cables routed behind the bar, until the last few years when the shifter cables started being routed on the same path under the wrap. And for an 89ish model, it would be pretty much incorrect to route them behind IMHO?,,,,BD

I agree BD! The lever were designed to run the cables in front of the bars, shipmano also had that milliepede looking cover. If you want to run them behind you need to put the right lever on the left and left on the right.

rekmeyata 09-04-12 06:30 AM

I disagree about the cable thing. I've seen bikes like that from the late 80's, they don't pull. The pulling thing can be checked by the Miyata owner simply by turning the bars from one extreme to the other if he hasn't already done that. I personally don't like the look of the wires like that, I like the loop look, but that's just looks not because it won't work that way. And the 1988 Miyata catalog shows the cabling exactly that way: http://www.miyatacatalogs.com/search?q=1988 Just scan down to the team model. This was feeble attempt at trying to be aero.

cb400bill 09-04-12 09:28 AM

This is how my Miyata 312 was built. I overhauled the bike with new bar tape, but copied the OEM cable path. It worked just fine. No pulling.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-n...2/P1010526.JPG

KvltBryce 09-04-12 02:32 PM

B-e-a-u-tiful! I will also be awaiting the ride report :)

What kind of tires do you have there, with the red sidewalls?

squirtdad 09-04-12 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake (Post 14686658)
Looks fantastic - and fortunately not one of the internal routing frames. Team Miyatas seem so hard to find in comparison to rarer Italian stuff.

Curious as to concern for internal routing. I have an 89 Miyata 1400 with interal routing and have/see no problems. It has been well taken care of and never stored out side. Is this generic or Miyata specific?

hmarks 09-04-12 03:15 PM

Very nice!

What are the measurements of the bike? I have been looking for a Team Miyata for awhile now, but I'm not sure if they're built like my 712. My 712 fits me very well with 63cm c-c and a 57cm tt, but the Teams I have seen for sale seem to be more squared away.

zmensing 09-04-12 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hmarks (Post 14691245)
Very nice!

What are the measurements of the bike? I have been looking for a Team Miyata for awhile now, but I'm not sure if they're built like my 712. My 712 fits me very well with 63cm c-c and a 57cm tt, but the Teams I have seen for sale seem to be more squared away.

This is a 58 cm (c-t) and has a 55 cm top tube. The dimensions are available in the Miyata catalogs if you want to compare yours with the Team. For example: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_whtVpXkKwl...600/img252.jpg

zmensing 09-04-12 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by squirtdad (Post 14691128)
Curious as to concern for internal routing. I have an 89 Miyata 1400 with interal routing and have/see no problems. It has been well taken care of and never stored out side. Is this generic or Miyata specific?

Just have heard a few cases of problems with them. I know there's an example from a guy on here who had that issue and had to have the top tube replaced. I don't know if it's a certain year or what and probably only affected a few. Similar to what you hear about how some people won't go near the older carbon bikes.


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