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Old 09-14-12, 06:36 PM
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Bike needs new shoes, advice?

Here is my nearly restored Bertin C37. I just put on the decals today (foil and the French Reynold 531 age appropriate decals). Now, I really need to remove my 23mm racing tires and put on some nice, appropriate 700 tires. The bike has tons of clearance. What do you suggest? One problem, I don't want to spend a fortune. Suggestions?

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Blah blah blah blah....Panaracer Paselas....blah blah blah....25mm??......blah blah great tire....Blah blah great value.........skin walls!

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I've had good luck with the Vredestein Fortezza duo comp gumwalls. A bit lighter than the pasela's.
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Nice bike. Great job. Clinchers or tubulars?
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Nice bike. Great job. Clinchers or tubulars?
Thanks. Clinchers. I'm thinking at least 28mm and gum walls.
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Michelin World Tour if you can find some without sidewall reflectors.
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I really like the 32mm Paselas I put on my Gitane.
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What's your price limit?

Grand Bois Cerf 28mm or Cyprčs 32mm would really do the trick. Very fast and very comfortable.
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If the cost isn't a fortune to you, the Challenge Parigi-Roubaix clinchers might be the C&V favorite fancy-pants tire.

Otherwise, 28 or 32mm Paselas. Get the non-TourGuard kind for the best Jan Heine style suppleness available in an affordable tire.
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Originally Posted by techteg
What's your price limit?

Grand Bois Cerf 28mm or Cyprčs 32mm would really do the trick. Very fast and very comfortable.

Great idea.

I also recommend Challenge PRs.

I rode my Casati 82 miles on a day trip with Paselas two weeks ago and they were fine.

They handled gravel, sand, chip seal, and crappy two lanes just fine.

Not the same ride quality as my other recommendations, but no flats.

That counts I guess.
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Originally Posted by MrEss
If the cost isn't a fortune to you, the Challenge Parigi-Roubaix clinchers might be the C&V favorite fancy-pants tire.
I've got a pair of the Challenge PR and a pair of the Grand Bois Cerf, and I'd highly recommend either. Aesthetically, the Grand Bois win, and I'd be hard pressed to tell you which was faster or more comfortable.

Grand Bois Cerf 28 (actually 29mm)


Challenge Parigi-Roubaix 27 (actually 29mm)
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thanks everyone. I ordered the Challenge Parigi-Roubaix from Tree House Bikes today for $55 a piece which I thought sounded fair. I heard they are a bugger installing!

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Originally Posted by guygadois
I heard they are a bugger installing!
They are! Some folks in This thread recommend against Velox rim strips because it takes up too much room in the rim. Your results may vary, but once you get the first bead on, the rest shouldn't be too bad if you're using good tire levers.
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How does it ride with the 23 racing tires? My large 531 frame comes alive at about 16 mph with a lightweight wheelset.
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Here's the bike with the new Challenge tires. They were tight but relatively easy to get on with Pedro's levers. I think it looks good with its new shoes. BTW, Challenge Parigi-Roubaix are advertised as 27mm but my calipers measure them at exactly 30mm.

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Originally Posted by guygadois
Here's the bike with the new Challenge tires. They were tight but relatively easy to get on with Pedro's levers. I think it looks good with its new shoes. BTW, Challenge Parigi-Roubaix are advertised as 27mm but my calipers measure them at exactly 30mm.

Looks great, but the ride should be even better.
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Originally Posted by guygadois
thanks everyone. I ordered the Challenge Parigi-Roubaix from Tree House Bikes today for $55 a piece which I thought sounded fair. I heard they are a bugger installing!

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They were difficult, but only the first time. I changed roughly 14 flats in the first half of the year and could change one easily in 5 minutes, no swearing either. They are so much easier to change than wire bead tires, I have found a love for folding beads. Why so many flats? This year there has been a ton of glass in the roads and I seem to always run through it. Definitely avoid the glass.

I will share a technique that makes the first installation easier. Before learning this technique, I tried in vein for hours, swearing up a storm in the process.

Here is what you do:
1: Stretch the around the rim, flat with no beads or tubes installed.
2: Work one of the tire beads into place around the entire wheel.
3: Install the flat tube through the open side of the tire.
4: Install the final bead of the tire onto the rim
5: Inflate and wreak havoc on the neighborhoods.
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Oops, I see you already have them on!
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Looks Fabulous! Amazing what a pair of tan sidewalls can do for a bike.

Originally Posted by guygadois
Here's the bike with the new Challenge tires. They were tight but relatively easy to get on with Pedro's levers. I think it looks good with its new shoes. BTW, Challenge Parigi-Roubaix are advertised as 27mm but my calipers measure them at exactly 30mm.

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Originally Posted by mkeller234
They were difficult, but only the first time. I changed roughly 14 flats in the first half of the year and could change one easily in 5 minutes, no swearing either. They are so much easier to change than wire bead tires, I have found a love for folding beads. Why so many flats? This year there has been a ton of glass in the roads and I seem to always run through it. Definitely avoid the glass.

I will share a technique that makes the first installation easier. Before learning this technique, I tried in vein for hours, swearing up a storm in the process.

Here is what you do:
1: Stretch the around the rim, flat with no beads or tubes installed.
2: Work one of the tire beads into place around the entire wheel.
3: Install the flat tube through the open side of the tire.
4: Install the final bead of the tire onto the rim
5: Inflate and wreak havoc on the neighborhoods.
My method for installing these beasts exactly.

The only way to avoid punching the wall.
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Those look really great and you're gonna love the ride.

For what it's worth, I've put about 500 miles on mine with no flats.
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