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Old 09-16-12, 08:59 PM
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tire options at 26x1 3/8?

My penguin rebuild project comes with 26x1 3/8 tire size.
Any tires I can find are very road or cruiserish and I was really hoping to find a more cyclocross type tire. I'm not sure if I'm just searching the wrong stuff, should I be searching for a 650c tire? A little help or opinion on tires would be very helpful
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What's a penguin?

There are actually 5 sizes that have appeared on bicycles that take a nominally 26" wheel: ISO 571 (a Schwinn "standard"), ISO 584 (also known as 650B), ISO 590 (the "English Racer" standard), ISO 597 (another Schwinn "standard"), and ISO 559 (what works on most contemporary 26" MTBs and hybrids).

The ISO number appears on the sidewall of the tire, so if you have an old one you're in luck. If not, do the best job you can measuring the bead seat diameter of your rim (that's where the ISO number comes from), and pray. Also, your local shop may have some of these tires hanging around, and they might let you try them on for size. And unless it's 559, your selection will be limited.

If this bike isn't a Schwinn, I'm betting it's 590.
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Haha sorry. I call my bike the penguin (a mismatch vintage frame rebuild, see my thread)
The rims are sekine wheels, I'd have to check if they have a stamp when she comes back from the shop. I just remember the tire size, know I need new ones, and know I'd like to have a more light trail/road cross compatability
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If the size is not 559, your best bet might be to find a local shop with a J&B account. They have the oddball sizes that everyone else has given up on. And Velo Orange looks like a good source for 650b.
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590 is the most likely BSD. Assuming this is correct, Kenda makes a couple of 37-590 tires that may suit your needs. Check out their K812 and K830.
https://www.kendausa.com/en/home/whee...reet/k812.aspx
https://www.kendausa.com/en/home/whee...orts/k830.aspx
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Someone posted a list of many 590 tires not long ago; I'll see if I can find it. You may find something you like in there.

Edit: Found it.

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597= "S6" (obsolescent if not quite dead yet)
590= 26x1-3/8=English 3-speed= EA-1= "650A"
584= 26x1-1/2="650B"=27.5x1.5 {last few years' MTB terminology**
571= Schwinn Junior (I think) = "650C"
559= Schwinn cruiser=26x1.5"= Mountain bike sizing.

Note that MTB sizes are expressed decimally in inches, while the other 26" range are expressed as inch fractions. I have also seen the 584 and 571 sizes expressed decimally in millimeters. This is why there is a slow transition, among bike mechanics, toward referring to tires in their metric ISO sizes, Bead Seat Diameter x Tire Width (in millimeters). Much less confusing.

Also:

635= 700A=DL-1
630= 700B=27"
622= 700C= 28"(!) {Wal-Mart/Target/Kmart marketing term**

And other than the Kenda offerings, I can't think of any knobbies in the size you want.

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Originally Posted by Captain Blight View Post
597= "S6" (obsolescent if not quite dead yet)
590= 26x1-3/8=English 3-speed= EA-1= "650A"
You're close but slightly off: 597mm = EA1; 590mm = EA3
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Originally Posted by Captain Blight View Post
622= 700C= 28"(!) {Wal-Mart/Target/Kmart marketing term** [
They used to be referred to as 28" tires in certain European countries. I've had some 700c Continental tires with 28" on the label. I seem to remember 28" on some sewups I had BITD also.

Hey, whaddya know, I have some current sewups with 28" on them!

Not my pic, but...


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shame the panaracer passhunter seems to gone now.
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Ill definatly ask the shop what they have and maybe see what they can suggest aswell, that k830 looks pretty neat tho. Thanks for the input guys. Thiis build is starting to get really fun now that I'm almost at a "functional" bike. Ooh astheticssss
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Originally Posted by Captain Blight View Post
597= "S6" (obsolescent if not quite dead yet)
590= 26x1-3/8=English 3-speed= EA-1= "650A"
584= 26x1-1/2="650B"=27.5x1.5 {last few years' MTB terminology**
571= Schwinn Junior (I think) = "650C"
559= Schwinn cruiser=26x1.5"= Mountain bike sizing.

Note that MTB sizes are expressed decimally in inches, while the other 26" range are expressed as inch fractions. I have also seen the 584 and 571 sizes expressed decimally in millimeters. This is why there is a slow transition, among bike mechanics, toward referring to tires in their metric ISO sizes, Bead Seat Diameter x Tire Width (in millimeters). Much less confusing.

Also:

635= 700A=DL-1
630= 700B=27"
622= 700C= 28"(!) {Wal-Mart/Target/Kmart marketing term**

And other than the Kenda offerings, I can't think of any knobbies in the size you want.
Actually:
700A = 642 = Ancient size, dead since the 40s.
700B = 635 = DL-1 roadster
700C = 622 = 28", 29ner, 28 x 1 5/8
27" = 630 = Dunlop invented this in the late 40s as a propietary size to avoid importing 700c tires.

597 = EA1, S6, 26 x 1 1/4, Schwinn occasionally called this size 26 x 1 3/8(!)
590 = EA3 26 x 1 3/8 = 650A
584 = 26 x 1 1/2, 27.5"= 650B
571 = 26 x 1 3/4 = 650C, Schwinn used this size from time to time, skinny tires in 650c are used in triathalon bikes, Raleigh and its Indian clones used this rim with 2" tires.
559 = 26 x decimal, Schwinn cruiser, mountain bike rim size

To answer MisterK's question, look on the existing tire or rim if 26 x 1 3/8 refers to EA1 or EA3. If it's the latter, you are in luck, as there are a healthy number of tires available in that 590 size, including some with light knobby texture. EA1 is difficult to find, I think only Kenda makes them these days; poke around old Schwinn stores to see what tires they might have in the back.
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Originally Posted by gna View Post
Someone posted a list of many 590 tires not long ago; I'll see if I can find it. You may find something you like in there.

Edit: Found it.
Thanks for the edit, I was just about to link to that page!
I don't know how often Darren (the guy who made that page) updates the 650A list.
Here's another option for a 650A/26" x 1 3/8"/590mm/EA3 tire: Rubena V66 Flash

I've used the Schwalbe Delta Cruisers on my old Raleigh for the last year and a half and I'd definitely recommend them. Get the creme-colored ones for "looks".

And a link to an older thread: https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...-touring-tires

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I just put a pair of these on a 3-speed:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Continental-...-/180973638637

A bit on the heavy side like most 590mm tires, but not bad.
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I recently got some of these: https://www.outsideoutfitters.com/pm-...uot-tires.aspx

Seem pretty decent, and have a reflective stripe on the sidewall which is nice. Inexpensive, too!
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Seems like the Panaracer Col de Vie would be the most supple, so that's what I'll get if these Kendas ever wear out. Most of the options are thick and heavy -- which makes them durable -- but subtracts from the ride IMO.
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Seems like the Panaracer Col de Vie would be the most supple, so that's what I'll get if these Kendas ever wear out. Most of the options are thick and heavy -- which makes them durable -- but subtracts from the ride IMO.
That's most likely what I would get when the Kendas on my Rudge wear out. (Not in any hurry to replace them, as I found the Kendas for free.) The Rubena Flash that I mentioned above comes in two varieties: regular and puncture protection. If the "regular" tires are anything like the Rubena Cityhoppers that I've seen, they could also be a candidate for the supple department.
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If it's 590, there's no better choice than the Col De la Vie. Period.

That said, the Schwalbe Delta Cruisers are close seconds. You can also get wheelchair tires that are thinner and racier, but chances are, if you get the CDLV's, you won't ever want to ride another tire. Ever.
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All my bikes are 650A and you wouldn't believe how supple the Bell tires are that you get at Walmart. They are only black wall.
They aren't CDLV's but I like them better than Kendas.
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I was actually surprised at how well those tires work - they're really nice!
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There are millions - millions! - of old bikes in the world with this tire size. It's still an active, new factory bike tire size in Japan, and a very common wheelchair tire size worldwide. Despite this, some folks claim you can't find tires this size.

Here's the 26x1 3/8 aka EA3 aka 650A tires I found available on the 'net, at my LBS, at suburban big boxes and small town hardware stores about a year ago, including some knobbish ones for the OPs 'cyclocross' type use.

Bell Sports Streetster (folding)
Chengshin C638
Continental City Ride
Hutchinson Junior
Innova Cloud Nine
IRC Super Gold
IRC City POPS
Kenda gumwall
Kenda Cross (knobby)
Kenda K40 Street
Michelin World Tour
Nutrak Traditional
Nu-teck (airless)
Panaracer Col de Vie
Panaracer Passhunter (light knobby)
Panaracer ST Daily Commuting
Pyramid gumwall
Pyramid Sunlite Hybrid Nimbus
Raleigh Record (NOS)
Rubena Flash V66
Schwalbe Delta Cruiser (available in cream color)
Schwalbe Marathon
Schwalbe Marathon Plus
Schwalbe Speedway Pro (knobby)
Specialized TriSport
Vittoria Randonneur
Vredestein Perfect Tour
Vredestein Dynamic Tour
Vredestein Classic

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I saw the Bell folding tire at my local xmart too! I was curious because I want blackwalls but dont like what I can source through our small shops (small) distribution network. I am sure the Panaracers are the bees knees but I dont want gumwalls on my lowly LTD 3.

Thing about these Bell tires- kevlar bead on a steel hookless rim...? A no go, no? I bet the kind of person who usually shops at an xmart for tires wouldnt be the kind of enthusiast who puts updated alloy hooked rims on their ea-3 bikes so it seems like an odd choice for the xmart. Lots of old Huffy 10-speeds w/that tire size, but I bet none of those rims are alloy or hooked! I am sure they only care about having a tire that fits in a small box on the shelves. I can only imagine wire bead tires being a serious turnoff in regards to shipping/stocking/display/etc for big box stores.
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Skinwalls class up any bike, though.
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