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Old 09-15-15, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by pullup
Hi Spoonz

Nice trackbike

I can see your location is Amsterdam and you have found the facebook page already from one of the big Rih collectors and probably have contacted him already as he was the one who identified yopur bike as a real Rih.

I can see on that face book page a picture of one of the pages that were kept from all the bikes that were made an know that the people from Rih had plans of digitalising them.

I am not sure wether or not there will be information of the delivered colourschemes with each bike but I am positive that it will be your best bet just to go to the new workshop and ask the people over there if they are able to help you.
I've found out from (the new) RIH that it was built in 1973 and was most probably finished in RIH red.
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Originally Posted by jcdevos
I have been told that there has been a short period in which Wim van der Kaaij@the Westerstraat and some Cove builders worked together in Amsterdam, somewhere in the seventies, maybe your frame is from that cooperation, the framestickers (Bustraan Amsterdam, head badge Amsterdam )indicate a Westerstraat build, but Cove indicates Venlo. Mail Lester i'd say.
Thank you for the information, @jcdevos! Much appreciated. I think I'll pop by the RIH workshop; it's 'around the corner'.
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Hi all,

I couldn't help myself. I bought another one ...

The framenumber on this one also puzzles me; I checked this forum for clues and although I found some, I'm not sure if my assumptions are correct. So I hope you can help me with this.
According to @non-fixie the serials on RIH frames built by Fongers (which is the one I have) before 1966 were preceded a letter. However, the frame I just bought has serialnumber U61203. And the U is not listed in the first post of this thread.

Originally Posted by non-fixie
Fongers added a letter to the serial number identify the build year. For the period that they built bikes for RIH, from 1964 to 1970, the following codes were used: Until 1966 the letter preceded the serial number. From '66 onwards they started reusing the letters, but put them behind the serial number.
Can anyone tell me when this frame was built?

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Old 10-17-15, 10:00 AM
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'U' would have been 1962. I didn't know the alliance between RIH and Fongers started that early.

Nice frame, BTW. Thanks for sharing it. It would have had fenders, a rack and a chain guard by the look of it. Great colors too. Any plans with it?
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Just found some new information I had not seen before at Fongers.net. Seems they started building RIHs as early as 1961. Have a look here. Scroll down to see 'your' bike.
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Originally Posted by non-fixie
'U' would have been 1962. I didn't know the alliance between RIH and Fongers started that early. Nice frame, BTW. Thanks for sharing it. It would have had fenders, a rack and a chain guard by the look of it. Great colors too. Any plans with it?
Thank you for your swift reply, @non-fixie! My assuptions - which I didn't even mention - were right; it is a 1962 RIH. How cool! My plans are a complete restoration according to the picture I just found on the link you provided to fongers.net. Because of the details on the frame, I already figured that it would've been some sort of randonneur. So because I already wanted to fit race handlebars on it, it wil most likely become that: a randonneur.

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Sounds like a plan! I'm looking forward to the result. Even better: start a build thread on this forum. That would be greatly appreciated by the community here, I'm sure.

BTW, the Pletscher rack in this picture is probably not original, as it doesn't use the braze-ons provided.

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I have never seen a mid chain stay kickstand plate before. Is this common or a feature of the RIH bikes ?

or possibly a randonneur style ?

Very nice looking machine you have ! Would love to see a build thread.

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Originally Posted by non-fixie
Even better: start a build thread on this forum. That would be greatly appreciated by the community here, I'm sure.
Great idea! I wil remember that when I start restoring the bike
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Hi i've a RIH luxe frame for years now it's a 55cm frame red and has a 6 numbers frame number (782487)on the front of the crank and it has bustraan holland on it. Can some one tell me more about it??

And how can i post a picture?
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Originally Posted by DimRvf
Hi i've a RIH luxe frame for years now it's a 55cm frame red and has a 6 numbers frame number (782487)on the front of the crank and it has bustraan holland on it. Can some one tell me more about it??

And how can i post a picture?
Hello @DimRvf, welcome to bikeforums! The RIH Luxe machines were built by Cové in Venlo, as a result of a franchise agreement with the Amsterdam-based Bustraan brothers, the founders of the RIH brand.

The small Amsterdam shop on the Westerstraat couldn't cope with the growing demand for RIH sports bikes in the early sixties, and they made a deal with Fongers, in 1964 or thereabouts, to produce bikes to their specifications in their Groningen facilities, so the guys in Amsterdam could focus on the hand-built stuff. When Fongers was taken over by Batavus in the early seventies the agreement ended and RIH needed a new partner. Enter Cové. At first the Cové RIHs looked a lot like the previous Fongers products, but somewhere in the early eighties Cové managed to procure the rights to the RIH name from the estate of the late Bustraan brothers. After that they went their own way with the RIH brand and made it into what it is now.

In the meantime Willem van der Kaaij, who had taken over the Amsterdam shop, was allowed to keep building a limited number of racing bikes under the 'RIH Sport' brand.

Cové did build racing and touring bikes in the seventies and early eighties: the Luxe, Elan and Mistral being the best-known models. The Luxe is one of the nicer ones, built with Reynolds 531 if I'm not mistaken.

WRT posting pictures: there's a thread on that. Have a look here.
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Hi guys & girls!

What do you make of this serial? I haven't seen this before ...

280046 and 243228 on the bottom bracket.
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Hi all,
here's another RIH. I bought it a few weeks ago and use it for commuting. I've only changed the tyres and the handlebar/brakelevers.
Frame number is on the bottom bracket: 782081. Does that make it a bike from 1978? And does anybody know what is "speciaal" about it?
It has Huret gears and Weinmann brakes and fenders.
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Looks nice. Are the Derailleurs original?

I hope you kept the parts you took off.

a fine bike for commuting with.
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Thank you, I like the looks as well. And yes, original derailleurs. They look older then the 70s to me, but I'm looking into that...
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Originally Posted by Auke
Hi all,
here's another RIH. I bought it a few weeks ago and use it for commuting. I've only changed the tyres and the handlebar/brakelevers.
Frame number is on the bottom bracket: 782081. Does that make it a bike from 1978? And does anybody know what is "speciaal" about it?
It has Huret gears and Weinmann brakes and fenders.
Hello Auke, welcome to bikeforums! That is a good-looking RIH Speciaal. 'Speciaal' was the model name of the RIH offering in the 'Super Sports Bicycle' market, as it was called BITD. It was built by Cové in Venlo, under license from RIH Sport in Amsterdam. The Allvit RD is quite probably original. Have a look at this test from 1977, which gives a nice overview of the Dutch super sports bike market at the time, and also shows the Allvit as the standard RD on the RIH. I'm not well-versed in the Cové serial numbering system, but 1978 could well be correct.
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Thank you, non-fixie. Having read this nice test I obviously bought the wrong bike, and it confirmed my expectation on the not-so-supersport-weight: 15 kgs! But no rust on my frame, so on durability the test proves wrong imho.
Earlier in this thread you mentioned the numbering system where the first two digits state the year, but cove might have used a different system? Anyway, late 70s will probably be properly dated when looking to the rest of the parts.
What do you think of letters on the top tube? placed by a drunk? Monday morning issue?
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Originally Posted by 3speedslow
Looks nice. Are the Derailleurs original?

I hope you kept the parts you took off.

a fine bike for commuting with.
Interested in the parts? It's more ore less the same handlebar as on the sport a few posts up. Too broad to weave through traffic for me.
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Interested in the parts? It's more ore less the same handlebar as on the sport a few posts up. Too broad to weave through traffic for me.
No, no... I'm here in the USA. I say save the original parts so at a latter time it can be put back to how it came out of the shop.
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fair enough, it's not that special anyway. But I do keep the parts, for later usege or maybe to exchange with others.
But have these bikes been sold in the US as well, or is this a european affair altogether?
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RIH models I believe are rare in the US, cursed be us!
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Surely there must be gorgeous looking classic american bikes? Which we don't have? Schwinn once sold beach cruisers here, very stylish.
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Here’s my 1973 RIH Model Campagnolo, serial 8712. The frame has its original finish in very good condition with only a few small scratches and touch-ups here and there. I have set it up as a light sport tourer with a full Campagnolo Nuovo Record group, Soma RD cage, 3ttt bar & stem, Brooks Professional saddle, Super Champion Gentleman 700C rims, and Shimano 14-34 freewheel. The pump is a Tagamex from Mexico, for a bit of local flavor.


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Really spectacular !^^^

That blue paint does look stunning. How does it ride?
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I find the deep blue and white scheme very handsome, I like the old-school plain logos, and I'm always a sucker for chrome. I haven't put many miles on it yet, but I do like the feel of the bike. It a 531 db frame so it's light and responsive enough for my tastes, but not too responsive. It's also nice and straight-- something you never really know until you finish the build and take it out for a ride. On the other hand, I'm still getting the components dialed in and have had several issues, but I'm slowly working through them. The main thing I don't like is the 10-tooth jump to the low gear on the freewheel-- it's nice to have the low gear but the change is jarring.
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