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Old 10-17-12, 04:51 PM
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Motobecane Grand Record ... ?year?

Picked up this beauty... Motobecane Grand Record ... & she fits me

Trying to get some info on correct components . Serial is 2673433

Was this built with 531 tubing ?

Currently has campagnolo Valentino extra RD , Nervar Star crank , Shimano 600 brakes , campy hubs laced on G40's

oh so smooth
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Old 10-17-12, 04:54 PM
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Nice. Just a guess, but, based on those painted seat stay caps and fork crown, I'd say 1971-72. or so.
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Old 10-17-12, 05:26 PM
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I think Rootboy is pretty close. The numbers make no sense and Motobecane used several factories all with slightly different methods further confusing things. Mine is a '71, dated only by component spec and thin evidence at that. Mine was made of 531 as have all the GR frames I have seen.


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Do you have braze-ons or clamp-ons?

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The riveted badges are a bit newer


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Old 10-17-12, 05:59 PM
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Two very purty Motos.
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Nice job on your restoration. I really like the yellow ... Was that a stock color?

Yes my GR has the clamp on cable directors.
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Originally Posted by ftwelder View Post
Mine was made of 531 as have all the GR frames I have seen.


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Very Nice ftwelder....

Should be 531 Idkutet. Looks just like my '73, which has never really been proven, since I bought it as a frame only in '78.


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Lugnut thanks for the info - like your handle bar tape ... Pretty excited about this bike ... Plan on a full mechanical restoration this winter & fixing decals

Only negative is lack of water cage boss's ... Looks like this one had an clamp on at one time ... Any other ideas on carrying water.... My solution today was a bottle in the jersey
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My GR came to me with a water bottle clamp on the seattube which had scraped up the paint quite a bit, including a vertical series of Zs right through the pretty red bands. I don't want to replicate that particular 'vintage' style, so am going sort of even more vintage: water bottle cage on a clamp on the handlebars. The old TA clamps are very expensive but VO makes one and it should be in my local LBS by now, actually two so my wife's mixte can have one, I'm also getting the VO cage. I'll report back!
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Judging from the headbadge, logos, and lack of braze-ons, I'd guess it's a '74-'76.
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Only negative is lack of water cage boss's ... Looks like this one had an clamp on at one time ... Any other ideas on carrying water....

I had a water bottle w/ a clamp, American Classic IIRC? I didn't care for it, as it scarred the paint job...even though I had put tape under the clamps. So I removed it. I also tried one of those handlebar cages, but found it threw the steering balance off when cruising at high speeds. All this was a long time ago & the bike doesn't see much riding time any more. I have other bikes that fill the need. I will say, it's one comfortable riding bike...!

One member here suggested using a 5mm rivnut to assimilate water-bottle bosses, but I wasn't esp fond of drilling into the frame.
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Won't be drilling on this beauty ... I guess I can do the Tri look - put a clamp on the seat post
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[h=1]Two Fish Quick Cage Water Bottle Cage[/h]
http://www.amazon.com/Two-Fish-Quick...er+Bottle+Cage

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for my '76, i bought cheap bottle cage clamps from loosescrews.com. they needed to be wet sanded to be perfectly smooth and shiny before securing on the down tube.

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for my '76, i bought cheap bottle cage clamps from loosescrews.com. they needed to be wet sanded to be perfectly smooth and shiny before securing on the down tube.

yummy!

Yellow was the natural color on my bike. The paint has been retouched quite a bit.


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Originally Posted by kroozer View Post
Judging from the headbadge, logos, and lack of braze-ons, I'd guess it's a '74-'76.
+1. it's definitely not pre-1973 as previously suggested, as it uses the headbadge introduced for the 50th anniversary.
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Originally Posted by rootboy View Post
Nice. Just a guess, but, based on those painted seat stay caps and fork crown, I'd say 1971-72. or so.
I believe 71-72 had a plastic "shield" headbadge. So, later.
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I believe 71-72 had a plastic "shield" headbadge. So, later.
Probably right dbakl. But, when did they stop painting the seat stay caps? I seem to think that was a very early feature, maybe ended in 73 or so, but my experience is limited. Cool bike. Love those lugs.
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You could always get one of these:



They attach to your seat post, and I always though they looked kind of snazzy.


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Only negative is lack of water cage boss's ... Looks like this one had an clamp on at one time ... Any other ideas on carrying water.... My solution today was a bottle in the jersey[/QUOTE]

Water bottle bosses would be inappropriate on this bike, IMO. BTW, if you're worried about conventional, clamp on water bottle cages marring the finish, I've had good results by coating the inside of the clamps with clear Plasti-dip. A couple of very thin coats, let it dry very thoroughly, and you're good.
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Here's my red and black of unknown year. I curse whoever lost or bent the front fork,,,,BD


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Plasti dip ... Going to give that a try

Bikedued On the gold bell ... Nice touch to a nice ride
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another great tip when securing smooth aluminum cage clamps to a pretty down tube is to use two sets of screws, one much longer than the other. first, use the long set to initially secure the clamps. and tighten. these screws should be way too long after the clamps are tightened. but the length of the screws will make initial setup a snap. then, after the clamps have been stretched and are in place, one by one, replace the screws with better fitting ones that are shorter. this method works perfectly, quickly, and will not lead to frustration and scratches of your downtube when trying to fit perfectly sized screws to your cage clamps.
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Throwing around the idea of a sealed BB... will the velo orange french thread work on this frame? any other options?
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will the velo orange french thread work on this frame? any other options?
It should, but you'd better make sure what Threads are exactly in your BB. My Grand Record has a Swiss BB w/ a left-hand threaded fixed cup. They are nearly impossible to find! However, Phil Wood has a Sealed BB's available w/ all the different cups...but cost $$.
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Originally Posted by Bikedued View Post
Here's my red and black of unknown year. I curse whoever lost or bent the front fork,,,,BD


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Don't curse, just rattle-can the top half of the fork black and leave the chrome socks. (No one will be the wiser at 10 feet.)
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