Vintage (looking) Rim Suggestions
10-23-12, 08:32 AM
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Vintage (looking) Rim Suggestions
I'm already at the last and most important (to me anyway) step in my '86 Raleigh Competition restoration... the wheelset. I'm working on finding a set of Shimano 600 hubs (the 7-speed freehub type) 32 hole, or 32 rear and 28 front. I want them to have the "original" look, so I'll probably go with 2 cross front and 3 cross rear.
NOS rims are getting rare and pricey... can anyone suggest a good quality vintage looking rim? Aluminum finish, not dark anodized or painted.
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NOS rims are getting rare and pricey... can anyone suggest a good quality vintage looking rim? Aluminum finish, not dark anodized or painted.
Thanks!!!
10-23-12, 08:39 AM
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H+Son TB14
VO Raid
Those would be my top choices. Others would include:
Sun CR18
Sun M13-II
VO PBP
VO Raid
Those would be my top choices. Others would include:
Sun CR18
Sun M13-II
VO PBP
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10-23-12, 08:47 AM
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I really like the H+Son TB14 that the Colonel suggested above. I will build a wheelset with them sooner or later. They come in polished, grey anodized or black.
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10-23-12, 08:50 AM
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I like the double eyelet on the Raid, but they are a bit wider than I'd like. The last set of wheels that I built up (back in the 80's) had a set of Mavic MA40 rims, and I even thought those looked too wide. The Raid is almost 2mm wider.
10-23-12, 08:54 AM
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All of the rims I listed are polished, so they're all nice and shiny. The M13-II and the PBP are nearly identical looking.
I have wheelsets with both the Raids and MA40s. The Raid doesn't look any wider to my eye.
You might do some reading on the increasing popularity of wider rims. I'm drinking that kool-aide and see no good reason to build up a new wheelset with narrow rims.
I have wheelsets with both the Raids and MA40s. The Raid doesn't look any wider to my eye.
You might do some reading on the increasing popularity of wider rims. I'm drinking that kool-aide and see no good reason to build up a new wheelset with narrow rims.
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10-23-12, 08:56 AM
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All of the rims I listed are polished, so they're all nice and shiny. The M13-II and the PBP are nearly identical looking.
I have wheelsets with both the Raids and MA40s. The Raid doesn't look any wider to my eye.
You might do some reading on the increasing popularity of wider rims. I'm drinking that kool-aide and see no good reason to build up a new wheelset with narrow rims.
I have wheelsets with both the Raids and MA40s. The Raid doesn't look any wider to my eye.
You might do some reading on the increasing popularity of wider rims. I'm drinking that kool-aide and see no good reason to build up a new wheelset with narrow rims.
10-23-12, 09:22 AM
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The dark anodizing on the will still be appropriate for most bikes from the 80's.......but will no look correct for 70's and older bikes.
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10-23-12, 09:28 AM
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Are MA40s still in production? I haven't found any. They were bomb-proof back when I had them on my bike. Unfortunately, the guy who owned the bike when I let her go for a few years kept those wheels when he traded it in.
10-23-12, 09:32 AM
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10-23-12, 09:58 AM
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Sorry, I thought you knew that they haven't made them since maybe the early 90's. I forgot to add "....if you can find them..." They still do come up like many other clincher rims from the 80's at ebay as NOS sets, but limited numbers left means will be quite pricey compared to something like the new rims from VO.....
I was just thinking that you might reconsider rims that you are already familiar with.
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I was just thinking that you might reconsider rims that you are already familiar with.
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10-23-12, 10:02 AM
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I think the OP made a pretty informative first post.
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I know, It's just I would like to tell him to reconsider trying to get MA40s again if he can push it, specially if he's not looking at them because of concerns about his heavier weight since he last had them... I personally will prefer to wait and save up some money to get the best/appropriate rims I can put on a build than resort to "modern" substitutes.....In the end, it's just a more satisfying result when restoring a nice C&V bike.
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10-23-12, 10:25 AM
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I know, It's just I would like to tell him to reconsider trying to get MA40s again if he can push it, specially if he's not looking at them because of concerns about his heavier weight since he last had them... I personally will prefer to wait and save up some money to get the best/appropriate rims I can put on a build than resort to "modern" substitutes.....In the end, it's just a more satisfying result when restoring a nice C&V bike.
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I'm also planning on keeping my eyes out for a set of Shimano 600 freewheel hubs and a set of real vintage rims... those will go on the bike when she's "retired" as an original restoration.
10-23-12, 10:52 AM
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I have a 126mm 105SC, 32h rear hub for 7 speed UG or HG cassettes if that suits you.
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10-23-12, 02:33 PM
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I have a set of the VO PBP rims. They are taller (thicker) than the MA40s but a bit narrower.
left to right, and back to front: open Pro, G40, MA40, PBP
PBP
left to right, and back to front: open Pro, G40, MA40, PBP
PBP
10-23-12, 02:43 PM
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VO Raid
MAVIC MA40
Sun CR18 (polished)
MAVIC MA40
Sun CR18 (polished)
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The tallness of the VO PBP rim is what does not look so good to me. I usually equate tall looking rims aesthetically to "aero" section rims and not box section rims, so in the case of the VO rims, they tend to look uber boxy/clunky/heavy.....JMOs....
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MA40s came on my Cinelli when I bought it. After years of constantly retruing the rear the ferrules began to pull out of the rim. I've since heard the opinion that they were build a little light.
I really like the Velo-Orange rims, they have that nice Super Champion look and build up nice. I also like the Sun rims for the price, but I don't find them especially vintage looking. No rim back in the day had that ridge down the center.
I really like the Velo-Orange rims, they have that nice Super Champion look and build up nice. I also like the Sun rims for the price, but I don't find them especially vintage looking. No rim back in the day had that ridge down the center.
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Colonel, what is WITH you and your beyond-perfect-looking bikes?
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^He does impeccable builds, huh? The key is to make sure you photograph them before the maiden ride!
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IRD Cadence!
I am building up a wheelset with them now and they are quite a beutiful rim. Very similar looking to the Mavic Open Pro. They are also extremely light at ~385g.
https://www.ridingfeelsgood.com/buyns...40g_wheels.jpg
EDIT: You can't really tell this by the photo, but they are double walled and eyeleted. More info here: https://www.interlocracing.com/rims.html
I am building up a wheelset with them now and they are quite a beutiful rim. Very similar looking to the Mavic Open Pro. They are also extremely light at ~385g.
https://www.ridingfeelsgood.com/buyns...40g_wheels.jpg
EDIT: You can't really tell this by the photo, but they are double walled and eyeleted. More info here: https://www.interlocracing.com/rims.html