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jimwells41 11-07-12 02:06 PM

Identify this vintage cargo bicycle. Please!
 
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First, I apologize for not including pictures. I will take some next week.
This bike has three wheels, two in front on an axle that pivots on the front of a monotube frame. The axle has fittings at each side that hold big single leaf springs to which the box is fastened. The back of the box has a steering bar.
The rear wheel has a Bendix coaster hub that says "Bendix 76 Mexico 6217"
The side of the seat tube says "ES" in a small triangle
The bottom backet shell also says "ES" in a small triangle and also "SD95-61"
The pedals say "Crown" on the ends.
The patina suggests the bike might be from the 40s or 50s
The tires are solid with about 23" rim in rear and 18"s in front
THE PICTURE IS OF A SIMILAR BIKE, NOT THE ONE I AM TRYING TO IDENTIFY
Thank for your help. This bike has turned up at a charity where I volunteer. I hope to maximize what the charity (Daily Bread) gets for it.

Esteban32696 11-07-12 03:15 PM

Maybe Mercurio, very popular in Mexico.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Merc...w=1358&bih=526

Chombi 11-07-12 03:28 PM

I know the pic is not the bike you are looking at, but might be very close to what it is......The pic is named "dutch.jpg" does that help narrow it down a bit, or does that pertain to a type of cargo bike??

Chombi

T-Mar 11-07-12 03:42 PM

Probably not 40s or 50s. The Bendix 76 hub was introduced in 1976. The ES stampings are probably Japanese lug and shell manufacturer Eisho Seisakusho.

jimwells41 11-07-12 05:04 PM

Thank you for your replies. Bendix 76 is 1976 ... correct. I don't know if the hub is newer than the frame. I really doubt if the <ES> on the frame is for Eisho Seisakusho. These castings are very crude and it looks like Mr. Eisho Seisakusho did pretty fine stuff. It doesn't look much like a Mercurio (pictures later). The file name dutch.jpg is one that I chose for an image that I downloaded. My bike does look Dutch to me.
Thanks again. BTW I think that the solid tires are a big clue. The rims look like they were made just for these tires. I think the front rims are aluminum and the rear steel.
Jim

IthaDan 11-07-12 07:20 PM

Picture, bigger-

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jacques...es/5670589914/

http://i.imgur.com/jgEDm.jpg

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Originally Posted by jimwells41 (Post 14924676)
THE PICTURE IS OF A SIMILAR BIKE, NOT THE ONE I AM TRYING TO IDENTIFY

Oops, sorry. But I'm not deleting the post. so there.

jimwells41 11-13-12 03:33 PM

Promised pictures
 
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Here are the pictures I promised. They were all taken with the bike upside down. I hope that's not too confusing.http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=283568http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=283569http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=283570http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=283571http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=283572http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=283573

bradtx 11-13-12 04:15 PM

http://www.transportfiets.net/2010/0...andembakfiets/
http://www.transportfiets.net/category/bakfietsen/

Translate into English.

Brad

T-Mar 11-13-12 05:24 PM

Well, that cetainly looks like one of the Eisho Seisakusho trademarks. While they made some very nice lugs, it's my understanding that they were a full range manufacturer and had some very basic models in their product line for utilitarian bicycles.

As for the age, now that I see some better pictures, I appreciate why you think it's older. It's old technology and very rusty. It's hard to say if the hub is OEM or a replacement. The hub doesn't look as corroded as some of the rest of the bicycle, yet it doesn't appear any worse than the chain tension adjusters, which are probably OEM. Still, I imagine that thing would eat up brakes pretty quickly when fully loaded! BTW, that's a wide chain and chainring, what is it, 3/16"?

jimwells41 11-14-12 01:33 PM

Chain, hub, tensioners and <ES>
 
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Originally Posted by T-Mar (Post 14945093)
It's hard to say if the hub is OEM or a replacement. The hub doesn't look as corroded as some of the rest of the bicycle, yet it doesn't appear any worse than the chain tension adjusters, which are probably OEM. Still, I imagine that thing would eat up brakes pretty quickly when fully loaded! BTW, that's a wide chain and chainring, what is it, 3/16"?

I think maybe the hub is NOT OEM. The chain tensioners are available today. I have them on a track frame. I think the chain is more than 3/16. I will measure it next Tuesday.

Anyone have an email address for the Japanese gentleman <ES>?

jimwells41 11-20-12 04:17 PM

Chain is pretty normal 3/16 x 1/2 ---- do you want the bike?
 
The chain seems pretty normal.....3/16 x 1/2.
Anyone want this bike? A non-profit soup kitchen owns it and we will part with it for a small donation. The catch is that you will have to pick it up in Melbourne, Florida. Please call me at 321-242-9884. Thank you.

T-Mar 11-21-12 02:45 PM

3/16 is not a normal bicycle chain, unless you back to circa 1910-1920. I imagine it's wider because it is a load carrying cargo bicycle.

Even if you had contact inforamtion for ES, it is unlikely to yield further inforamtion on the identity. They only manufaxctured the lug themselves, which were then sold to dozens of different customers for assembling frames.


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