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Old 11-26-12, 10:14 PM
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Cannondale owners - who welded your bike?

I just bought a 1986 Cannondale ST400 off CL and in doing some research in the 1986 catalog on https://www.vintagecannondale.com/catalog.html I noticed that each frame builder for Cannondale stamped their initials in a circle on the non-drive rear dropout. Maybe this is old news here but it seemed cool to sort of connect your bike to a person.

Anyway I'm curious as to how many different craftsmen can be identified by our group and how many frame builders Cannondale may have employed for a given year.

Here are mine:
1986 ST400 initials PP
1990 ST400 initials DM
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My 87 SR400 Team Comp was welded by "KP" - pretty cool!
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Old 11-27-12, 12:33 AM
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My 1986 SM500 has two:

RH in a circle
MP in a square

Maybe mine was a training frame.
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Didn't know this. I'll begin checking mine.
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Originally Posted by pastorbobnlnh View Post
Didn't know this. I'll begin checking mine.
Same here.. Don't know if the Black Lightnings follows this rule. On mine, (I will look at again tonight), it is size,date, and the number of being made on that date.
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1986 Road Race (JD) in the circle

and other initials without a circle
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Old 12-01-12, 09:08 AM
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My 86 has "RR"
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This is a cool thread.

87 Blueberry.

Looks like "JC"
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Originally Posted by badger_biker View Post
I just bought a 1986 Cannondale ST400 off CL and in doing some research in the 1986 catalog on Vintage Cannondale - Cannondale Catalogs I noticed that each frame builder for Cannondale stamped their initials in a circle on the non-drive rear dropout. Maybe this is old news here but it seemed cool to sort of connect your bike to a person.

Anyway I'm curious as to how many different craftsmen can be identified by our group and how many frame builders Cannondale may have employed for a given year.

Here are mine:
1986 ST400 initials PP
1990 ST400 initials DM
I know this is an old thread but I ran across something recently that has made me curious. I recently purchased another 88 ST400 and as I was servicing it, I ran across something strange. The rear chainstays were welded on the wrong side. The VIN is on the top of the right stay behind the chainrings and the little rivet that is usually on the top of the right stay is on the bottom of the left stay. The extra "dent" for the chainrings is in the proper place but the stays were obviously switched. Just curious if anyone else has run into this before. I apologize for digging up an old thread but I thought you guys might be interested.

The 88 in question was welded by AS and JD.
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Old 06-20-14, 06:19 PM
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Who apparently were having a mixed up day
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88 (Blueberry) Alpine series...MS
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'86 SR900 "PW"

cool thread.
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I'll have to check my '88 ProComp crit series. I hope I didnt sand it down and make it disappear.
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Here are a few more of the initials from my stash. I am not able to get all of them right now as I am suffering from a broken rib and I cant get to the ones that are hanging up.

83 ST500-none
85 ST500-none
85 SR500-none
86 SR500-PP(circle)
87 SR400-PS(circle), DD, AS
88 ST400-RL(circle), maltese cross with no initials inside
88 ST400-AS(square), JD(circle)
90 ST400-SM(circle), UF
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Originally Posted by trailmix View Post
I know this is an old thread but I ran across something recently that has made me curious. I recently purchased another 88 ST400 and as I was servicing it, I ran across something strange. The rear chainstays were welded on the wrong side. The VIN is on the top of the right stay behind the chainrings and the little rivet that is usually on the top of the right stay is on the bottom of the left stay. The extra "dent" for the chainrings is in the proper place but the stays were obviously switched. Just curious if anyone else has run into this before. I apologize for digging up an old thread but I thought you guys might be interested.

The 88 in question was welded by AS and JD.
I've heard of this before- I had to check the date you posted this because it seemed identical to what I remember.

Either yours is another one or you got one that belonged to someone here...
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OK so it was yours... that "month ago" seemed like years ago...

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Want to see something crazy? I started working over the 88 ST400 that I just picked up and I noticed something a bit off. Check out the chainstays, they are welded on the wrong side of the frame. I know the pictures are not that great but take a look at where the serial number is; on top of the right stay-it is supposed to be on the bottom of the left stay. I guess they are mirror images of each other and the welder just grabbed the wrong one. Never seen that before.

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Originally Posted by Chuckk View Post
This thread would be super if only some of the old Cannonball folks that wander the web would put some names and stories with the initials.
I know they've named names and told stories before.

That was a nice touch of personalization.
That would definitely be cool.
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Originally Posted by OldsCOOL View Post
I'll have to check my '88 ProComp crit series. I hope I didnt sand it down and make it disappear.
Ok, I have a JD and DD in a circle.
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'00 CAAD3 stamped SR on NDS dropout.
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'88 SR500-Circled RR, initials only MP & ML ('86 manufactured frame)
'89 Frameset-Circled JT
'95 T700-No stamps
'96 T700-J?, two floating Hs and a 23
'99 R1000T-4 L1 stamps

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Originally Posted by bradtx View Post
'88 SR500-Circled RR, initials only MP & ML ('86 manufactured frame)
'89 Frameset-Circled JT
'95 T700-No stamps
'96 T700-J?, two floating Hs and a 23
'99 R1000T-4 L1 stamps


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I'm curious, you have an 88 SR500 with an 86 frame?
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What year is that frame?
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I'm curious, you have an 88 SR500 with an 86 frame?
True and I don't really know why. Possibly the clue is that there are three sets of initials.

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Originally Posted by trailmix View Post
What year is that frame?
Based on the serial number etched on the chain stay, the frame was manufactured at the end of October, 1987, but sold as an '88 model since mine has blue painted Nitto quill stem. I am in the process of overhauling my SR500 and I am about half way tearing it apart.
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