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TREK 660 v Centurion Ironman

Old 12-04-12, 07:11 PM
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TREK 660 v Centurion Ironman

OK let the games begin! Gonna pull the trigger on one or the other....Both are 7 speed Shimano 600. Gonna put mustache bars and fenders for a rain bike..... WHICH ONE DO I GET********** I will tally the responses and announce the winner and post pics when it finds its way into the garage
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It's more or less a question of color preference and/or patriotism.

Get both.
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Back in '87 when my wife was shopping for a bike we looked at and test rode both of those and decided on the 660. It was a nice bike until '99 when a dog ran out in front and two of the frame tubes bent. Don't remember anymore what we preferred about that one vs. the Ironman.
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I would choose the Trek, it should be a little less twitchy than the Ironman (and besides I already have one of those).
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Originally Posted by webike4fun View Post
OK let the games begin! Gonna pull the trigger on one or the other....Both are 7 speed Shimano 600. Gonna put mustache bars and fenders for a rain bike..... WHICH ONE DO I GET********** I will tally the responses and announce the winner and post pics when it finds its way into the garage
The Ironman is a beautiful bike, but I don't think it has the clearance for fenders. I don't know about the trek 660. Check them both before making your decision for tire clearance.
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Old 12-04-12, 11:28 PM
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For what you say you'll do with it, get the Trek.
It's heavier, and the geometry is fine for riding in the rain without a sense of urgency.
No one will accuse you of being fast, or cool, either.
Hipsters won't engage you in random conversation.
You'll be hard pressed to get fenders on the Ironman, even with 700x23's
Few people will stop you on a group ride and say "I used to have one of those."
Avoid risk. Be conservative. Get the Trek.




Disclaimer: I've never even seen a 660, but I built a 760 once. I'm hardly impartial.
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If It Were Me...

...the Trek would be in my garage.
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I admit to knowing nothing about Centurions. And I am not intimate with the 660. But I do own an '85 560 in modest "501". I decommisioned it due to the fact that it was a size too small. The parts are going to another project.

And so it sits strapped to my garage wall. I keep looking at it, time and time again ...and thinking. "Jeez that's a nice frame!" It is just beautifully made! And I loved the ride — an entry level racing frame with a silky feel and no handing quirks — totally stable. If there is any comparison with the 660, I'd go with the Trek if it were me. I've owned two steel Treks and have like them both of them very much.
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Since I own both, I can speak to this question. IMHO, both are great bikes and, from a performance standpoint, on par or better than anything the Euro makers were producing at that time. They just don't speak Italian. And both have racing experience, but came along a little too late for steel frames.

What year is the 660? I am assuming that, because it is 7-speed, it's an 89. If so, the geometry is Crit oriented with 73.5 parallel angles. The Ironman is very close to that.

Robbie is right. Very unlikely you can fit fenders on the Ironman. 28mm tires barely clear the fork. There is definitely more clearance on the Trek. However, I cringe at the idea of mustache bars on a fine racing machine. But, given what I do to C&V bikes, I can't really complain.
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Originally Posted by RFC View Post
.... I cringe at the idea of mustache bars on a fine racing machine....
Well, I thought the same thing, but stinted on saying anything.
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Well, I thought the same thing, but stinted on saying anything.
Yeah, that is like getting a Corvette with an automatic tranny!!
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...I count my bikes the same way you count rules....
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Ironman doesn't have clearance or brazeons for fenders. So buy it and use it for something other than a rain bike
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Tragedy that the Trek doesn't come with fender eyelets, though there's ample room for fenders and 25s or even 28s.
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I'm currently running Crud fenders and 25s on my 89 Ironman Centurion. There was a slight bit of rub at first. I'll take pics once I swap out the shifters.
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I'm currently running Crud fenders and 25s on my 89 Ironman Centurion. There was a slight bit of rub at first. I'll take pics once I swap out the shifters.
Did the rub go away or did the tires shave themselves down?
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Originally Posted by Lenton58 View Post
I keep looking at it, time and time again ...and thinking. "Jeez that's a nice frame!" It is just beautifully made! And I loved the ride — an entry level racing frame with a silky feel and no handing quirks — totally stable.
I have a 560, and I would agree completely with this assessment. It's a very silky frame.
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Originally Posted by Captain Blight View Post
Tragedy that the Trek doesn't come with fender eyelets, though there's ample room for fenders and 25s or even 28s.
Depending on the year, maybe not. I had fenders with 23s on my '88 560 (560 and 660 shared same geometry most years), but no way would fenders with 25s work. And 25s are the largest size I can fit on my '88 560; the brake reach is very short.
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