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The rust is back - an old Bianchi cries for help
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I bought this bike a bit over a year ago - tore it down to the frame and used an OA bath on it to remove the rust. Since then, I've coated it with boiled linseed oil as a rust prevention method, but the rust caught it's second wind, shifted to the big ring and is ready for the sprint to the end.
Are there any long term alternatives to a repaint? I really don't want to lose what's left of the hand painted pinstriping and then there's the problem of finding decals. These pictures show the typical damage on the bike. http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=288285http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=288286http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=288287 |
Originally Posted by blilrat
(Post 15046364)
I bought this bike a bit over a year ago - tore it down to the frame and used an OA bath on it to remove the rust. Since then, I've coated it with boiled linseed oil as a rust prevention method, but the rust caught it's second wind, shifted to the big ring and is ready for the sprint to the end.
Are there any long term alternatives to a repaint? I really don't want to lose what's left of the hand painted pinstriping and then there's the problem of finding decals. These pictures show the typical damage on the bike. http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=288285http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=288286http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=288287 |
Give her another OA bath and then paint it this time...multiple primer and color coats and a couple of clear coats should seal her up really good to keep the rust away for a long time....
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Dude, you can ride a bare ass metal frame and not have rust problems if you would just clean and dry her up after every foul weather ride.
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Originally Posted by ilikebikes
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Dude, you can ride a bare ass metal frame and not have rust problems if you would just clean and dry her up after every foul weather ride.
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Been here before!
Sand blast - Powder coat is most likely the best... Cheap version: Strip it, sand it, rattle can engine block primer then engine block enamel then hang in the attic to dry till no smell... Try not to cry when you loose all your pin stripping and decals... |
Originally Posted by blilrat
(Post 15046887)
That's only true if there's no humidity and you don't store the bike in a garage.
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clean up the rust and then seal the exposed metal with clear nail polish or some other clear paint
then keep your bike inside the house |
On painted surfaces, I use OA first, then coat it with rust converter as a primer, then a top coat of Testors model enamel. If you leave metal bare, it is going to rust...
Exposed metal + time = rust. |
Originally Posted by frantik
(Post 15047125)
clean up the rust and then seal the exposed metal with clear nail polish or some other clear paint.
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Powder coating: I thought I had read someplace that it doesn't provide as good of seal from moisture as paint does? Can't recall where I read that however...
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Originally Posted by gaucho777
(Post 15047209)
+1. If you don't want to go with a full strip and OA bath, I've heard some people suggest soaking a rag in Oxalic Acid solution and then wrapping it on the trouble areas. After you've removed the rust, you can spray or brush on clearcoat followed by a wet-sand and polish.
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Originally Posted by ilikebikes
(Post 15047058)
If you store your bike in a humid area/place you're going to get rust regardless. I do agree if you have a humid garage you'll have rusty bikes. My garage is dry and cool, no problems with rust on my bikes. Maybe it helps that I clean them and dry them off after every foul weather ride? ;)
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Also, boiled linseed oil has very poor rust resistance. Just about useless,
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I have clear coated older frames to preserve them once any rust issues have been addressed... have used clear shellac which provides an excellent moisture barrier and gives a very smooth finish.
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The OP is dealing with high humidity and probably sweat. Salt on the bike is a way of life in the southeast in the summertime. I even have stainless parts of my frame trying to rust if I don't remove the salt after every summertime ride. I wipe down the bike with a wet paper towel and then dry it. Also, the clear coat idea will only work short term. Rust will appear within a year or so. It'll be little spiders of rust that will keep growing year after year.
Edit: Sixty fiver posted about shellac while I was typing, go with that rather than the other options such as lacquer based clears. |
The bike is black, right. Paint with some rustoleum black, with a brush. Black is easy.
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Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver
(Post 15047249)
The OP is from North Carolina... I am thinking high humidity is a fact of life there.
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Originally Posted by wrk101
(Post 15047179)
On painted surfaces, I use OA first, then coat it with rust converter as a primer, then a top coat of Testors model enamel. If you leave metal bare, it is going to rust...
Exposed metal + time = rust. Nearly 2 years later, the frame is still looking good. Here is my thread chronicling the process: http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...d-paint-damage Here is a picture, taken nearly 2 years ago, before rust treatment. http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8059/8...bdb84086_b.jpg DSC02168 by mkeller234, on Flickr Here is a picture, taken right after rust treatment. http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8080/8...f6d11183_b.jpg DSC02247 by mkeller234, on Flickr Here are two pictures, taken literally 5 minutes ago. Still looking good. http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8077/8...c7f2275c_b.jpg DSC01535 by mkeller234, on Flickr http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8482/8...2464c452_b.jpg DSC01538 by mkeller234, on Flickr |
Originally Posted by mkeller234
(Post 15048258)
Nearly 2 years later, the frame is still looking good. Here is my thread chronicling the process: http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php/718861-Mercian-King-of-Mercia-dealing-with-rust-and-paint-damage
You mention in your thread that one of the products caused the metal to blacken. Do you remember which one discolored it? I think that would be perfect for my black paint. |
Hijack: would you do the same for chrome that you have just de-rusted? What would you clear coat it with: shellac, urethane (like Varathane), clear nail polish, clear Krylon spray paint, or something else?
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Originally Posted by blilrat
(Post 15048763)
Thanks for posting that thread. Great thread and beautiful bike! I'm not sure what happened to the link above but it sends me to a picture when I click it - kinda odd.
You mention in your thread that one of the products caused the metal to blacken. Do you remember which one discolored it? I think that would be perfect for my black paint. The picture thing, yeah that is really weird. That was a wreath that my wife packaged up. I fixed the link. |
Originally Posted by Paramount1973
(Post 15047473)
Also, boiled linseed oil has very poor rust resistance. Just about useless,
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Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver
(Post 15047506)
I have clear coated older frames to preserve them once any rust issues have been addressed... have used clear shellac which provides an excellent moisture barrier and gives a very smooth finish.
Shellac is about 7 times more moisture-impermeable than epoxy, and about 3 times better than your medium enamel paint. Still and all, once the tinworm really takes hold, there's not a lot of easy fix to the problem. In the long run, you're probably going to have to bite the bullet and do a recoat. |
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