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Old 12-14-12, 01:45 PM
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A truly unique way to market your bike on Craigslist.

Don't blame the guy for wanting to get as much money for his bike as possible, however I find his approach a little...........well you decide.

https://dallas.craigslist.org/ndf/bik/3474264509.html

This add appeared in the Dallas/Ft Worth Craigslist on Dec 12. I responded right away but heard nothing. Then I received the email below this morning.


This is a BCC reply to everyone who has responded to my bike offer. First, thank you very much. The response has been very nice and a touch overwhelming.

I apologize to you if I've not gotten back to you already directly. *The bike is still available.

I've received several offers much higher than my posted price, and as you can understand I'm inclined to sell the bike for the best possible price.

If you would really like the bike, please let me know YOUR price.

I intend to make a decision Saturday 12/15/12, and be ready to deliver the bike Sunday 12/16/12 or Monday 12/17/12.

Thank you
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https://dallas.craigslist.org/ndf/bik/3474264509.html

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Yeah, had the same thing with a Merckx that was offered for about $150. Seller got a good price for it in the end. He really didn't have a clue first, but set the situation straight.
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Unique Is not the word I'd use.
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Interesting technique. They clearly know the bike is worth more than $55, considering the amount of effort the put into the add. I'm really curious what they will actually get for it, but unless you are the successful "bidder" then I guess we will never know...
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I've inquired about bikes and have gotten responses that the price has increased dramatically a number of times. I personally don't like it at all. If you post something with a specific price, you should follow through with said price. If your not sure about the price then don't put a specific price in the ad, or better yet, do about 10 minutes if research to determine what its worth. This is especially easy with bikes.
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Yep, definitely a ******. He knows darn well that bike is worth more than $55. He didn't reply to you right away because he was collecting email addresses to send out one email asking for the best price from each of you. ****** move. Move along.
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Originally Posted by brian3069
Unique Is not the word I'd use.
LOL... That's not the word I had in mind either but this is a family forum.

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I'll be the voice of dissent here - a CL ad isn't a contract and doesn't obligate the seller at a particular price. Is it a little annoying when sellers do this? Sure - but can you really blame a guy who didn't do his research for taking more money when offered? As a CL buyer it's irritating, but that's the market. It really doesn't bother me unless we've agreed to meet at price A and then the price shifts to B when I arrive with no warning or conversation.
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So he decided to auction it off, big deal.
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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake
I'll be the voice of dissent here - a CL ad isn't a contract and doesn't obligate the seller at a particular price. Is it a little annoying when sellers do this? Sure - but can you really blame a guy who didn't do his research for taking more money when offered? As a CL buyer it's irritating, but that's the market. It really doesn't bother me unless we've agreed to meet at price A and then the price shifts to B when I arrive with no warning or conversation.
Jeffpepperdine had it right and there was more than just a "whiff" of deception about that approach.

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Craigslist is not an online auction site. That's in the rules. If you conduct an auction on Craigslist, you break the rules. I'm not getting all high and mighty here, but the fact is the seller agreed to abide by certain rules and elected not to do so. Not honorable.
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its possible that he was just trying to unload it for cheap and then when the offers poured in... well who wouldn't want to take the highest one? maybe it wasn't intentional

this same exact thing happened to me when i was trying to get rid of a dura ace stem (the one with the hidden bolt). i priced it at what i thought was fair but then people starting offering me much more for it. naturally i just went with the highest bidder who, in this case, was in Canada.
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Originally Posted by rhm
Craigslist is not an online auction site. That's in the rules. If you conduct an auction on Craigslist, you break the rules. I'm not getting all high and mighty here, but the fact is the seller agreed to abide by certain rules and elected not to do so. Not honorable.
It isn't - and it's not something that I would do (of course I also know a little something about the values), but it's not the vilest thing in the world to me either. He did list a price, and his ad didn't conduct an auction - you could just view it as non-binding terms changing out of the CL arena.
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I would see if he'd take $27.50.
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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake
I'll be the voice of dissent here - a CL ad isn't a contract and doesn't obligate the seller at a particular price. Is it a little annoying when sellers do this? Sure - but can you really blame a guy who didn't do his research for taking more money when offered? As a CL buyer it's irritating, but that's the market. It really doesn't bother me unless we've agreed to meet at price A and then the price shifts to B when I arrive with no warning or conversation.

+1. CL is the wild west of buying and selling. Getting deals is part of the game. Missing deals is part of the game. Uninformed sellers are part of the game. Personally I do find it irritating because someone was internet savvy to post the CL ad complete with specs likely found online too but wasn't savvy enough to Google for 2 minutes and find out something about the bike's worth.

But, then again, I always hope I'm the one that gets there and pays before that latter two minutes of Googling occurs.
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Somehow, I get the feeling that some of you that are upset over this,
are upset that you, or someone else didn't "steal" his bike.

The seller can do what ever he wishes, after all it is still his bike!
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It's not the vilest thing in the world, and I'm not upset, but he did, in fact, conduct an auction, by asking everyone to email his own price. That's an auction, even if the bidders don't see the other bids.
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I'd tend to take it at face value, i.e. the guy truly wanted to unload it at a price that was probably some fraction of his purchase price. On the other hand, it is pretty darn easy to estimate value these days, so I'd subtract a few points for laziness. If he posted with full intent to bait, that's a bit manipulative but I see no real advantage to it. Personally I think it's bad character if a buyer knows full well that the thing is undervalued and still attempts to force the seller to hold to the original price.

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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake
It really doesn't bother me unless we've agreed to meet at price A and then the price shifts to B when I arrive with no warning or conversation.
Happened to me more than once. Once it was a 1988 Miyata 1000 and I got there and the seller sheepishly mentioned the higher bids. We settled inbetween the original asking price and the bid. I was fine with it since the bike was mint. I sold it a week later when I responded to a wanted ad. for a modest profit. I knew I could profit on it by overhauling and reselling and I contacted the wanted poster with two prices, the one I intended to charge after I tuned it and the as is price. They took it as it (not as good a deal I can guarantee that), but whatever. It was annoying to pay more than the asking price, but in the end I knew I'd still cash in on it.

I don't really care that this person has asked for bids on the raleigh (which looks pretty beat up). I think it's worth $175 maybe... if you want to get upset, be upset with the bidders who did so unsolicited instead of hoping as you did you might get it for a song.
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Some woman on Craigslist did this to me with her bottom-end British steel as follows:

Ok, So I know realize that the bike is worth more. I've upped my price to $200. Give me a call if you're interested.
By the time I called her, the price had become $350, and was arrogant enough to suggest that if someone had offered more by the time I drove out there, the price would then become whatever that other offer was.

Two can play that game.

Shortly afterwards, two emails - from not-necessarily-existing individuals - offered her $700 and $1,500 within a short period of time. She made an appointment with the $1,500 fellow...but he was a no-show. Twice. Then she made an appointment with the $700 fellow. He didn't show up either.

She wound up wasting 5 weeks for her greed, and - far as I know - nobody took her seriously after she CC'ed that the price went to $1,5k. Last I heard, she was still trying to sell it for $700

Instant karma.

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Originally Posted by cudak888
Some woman on Craigslist did this to me with her bottom-end British steel as follows:



By the time I called her, the price had become $350, and was arrogant enough to suggest that if someone had offered more by the time I drove out there, the price would then become whatever that other offer was.

Two can play that game.

Shortly afterwards, two emails - from not-necessarily-existing individuals - offered her $700 and $1,500 within a short period of time. She made an appointment with the $1,500 fellow...but he was a no-show. Twice. Then she made an appointment with the $700 fellow. He didn't show up either.

She wound up wasting 5 weeks for her greed, and - far as I know - nobody took her seriously after she CC'ed that the price went to $1,5k. Last I heard, she was still trying to sell it for $700

Instant karma.

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Nice one kurt! There was a guy trying to sell a Carlton for $1500 on usedvictoria.com for a couple years at least... who knows if he ever sold it. I sent an email explaining I had no interest in the bike as it was a 26" and pointed out this devalued it substantially and then gave him part by part value estimates taking time to list and get top dollar on ebay and suggested he re-think his price if he wanted to sell. He basically said I knew nothing and kept trying to sell is though eventually dropped the price to $1200.. it was re-posted for at least another year at that price.. I moved so who knows...
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+1 C/L is the wild, wild west. Part of getting deals is getting screwed out of other deals.

There was one guy a couple of weeks back, selling a dirty, rough, Peugeot P6. He was asking for "best offer" with a deadline a week away. Then every day he updated it with the latest winning bidder: PG $200, BN: $175, and so on.

The ads eventually disappeared, so I guess he sucked someone in on it.
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I find the seller's garage door disappointing. I try not to judge, but you can form some impressions from a cheesy garage door.
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Originally Posted by cudak888
Shortly afterwards, two emails - from not-necessarily-existing individuals - offered her $700 and $1,500 within a short period of time. She made an appointment with the $1,500 fellow...but he was a no-show. Twice. Then she made an appointment with the $700 fellow. He didn't show up either.

She wound up wasting 5 weeks for her greed, and - far as I know - nobody took her seriously after she CC'ed that the price went to $1,5k. Last I heard, she was still trying to sell it for $700

Instant karma.

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Excellent.
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So, would any one here be interested in using this sales tactic? Be honest. I thought it was pretty creative. If he is going against the rules of CL then they can deal with it.
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