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Mario Confente's personal Masi on eBay

Old 12-27-12, 12:03 AM
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Mario Confente's personal Masi on eBay

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Old 12-27-12, 12:28 AM
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The bicycle was assembled by me using correct Campagnolo brake cables
(n.o.s. rears are now made of unobtanium!) and correct Campagnolo derailleur cables.

Correct Campagnolo ferule ends were used for the brake cable housings.

Campagnolo grease of the same vintage was utilized throughout her build.


Everything correct.
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.....................The WABAC machine
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Dang. Too small for me.

A once in a lifetime opportunity for sure. Pure rarity there.
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Just the drillium on the drop-outs makes me giddy. And yes, This would be a very good size for me. now where's that 20.000$?
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Tire labels don't line up right. I'll pass.

(Would they not have been cutting out "Milano" from the head tube decal?)
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Well, whattayaknow! It's my size as well. So if we all chip in and share it in a time-share kind of way so we can all afford the luxury of a 36 year old 20k roadbike... I promise I won't scratch it during commuting!
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It's certainly gorgeous but I have to wonder how hard it is to find the right curved skewer and why he doesn't include shipping on a $19,500 bike.

Sorry if I seem a tad cynical.
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We can make all the jokes and snide remarks we want, and there is a few that can be made.

BUT

It is a piece of cycling history.
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We can make all the jokes and snide remarks we want, and there is a few that can be made.

BUT

It is a piece of cycling history.
Agreed.

I really don't know enough about Masis and Mario Confente, but that certainly is a pretty bicycle.
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I think I'll message the seller and offer him $100. - If no one "buys it now" for $19.5K, it might be his best offer.
(If I do win it, I'll be sure to post more pics in this thread.)

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Like I said, sorry if I seem cynical. Confente was a piece of history, but when I see price tags like that, my radar goes active for inconsistencies. The things I pointed out just caught my eye as odd. The bike is gorgeous.
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It is interesting to see attempts at documentation... Personally, I would find the original paint/scuffs and parts in place much more interesting. The repaint, as good as it is, in my opinion detracts from its implied lineage. Even though parts were lost along the way, once the frame was re-painted, it loses something for me. Beautiful bike - but it now looks un-ridden.

The same grease as used in the vintage year is a little silly. How about the air in the tires - was it the same air as mario breathed in...
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Originally Posted by auchencrow View Post
I think I'll message the seller and offer him $100. - If no one "buys it now" for $19.5K, it might be his best offer.
(If I do win it, I'll be sure to post more pics in this thread.)


If you get it for that, I'll triple your money!
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oh, and my inner catholic totally covets that paint scheme. Sinfully.
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I think the seller has done his homework and put out a very respectable ad.

How many times have we seen "important" bikes being sold without any proof whatsoever? He at least has documentation, which many other so-called "important" bikes never seem to have. He also has done a good job providing alot of pics of the bike today and from yesteryear with Mario and the bike included. He seem's to be honestly trying to convey the changes that were made and why they were made. If I was a collector with that kind of cash to spend, I would give this seller a call. The bike will probably end up in Japan.

Man, love that blue bar tape with that white frame!
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That is one gorgeous bike, and that 56cm top tube is perfect for me. I could use another cm or two in the seat tube length, but I could make it work. If I bought it, I'm not sure I could bring myself to ride it though. I think it belongs in a museum without a velvet rope around it.
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Originally Posted by jr59 View Post
We can make all the jokes and snide remarks we want, and there is a few that can be made.

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It is a piece of cycling history.
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Agreed.

I really don't know enough about Masis and Mario Confente, but that certainly is a pretty bicycle.
+2 - and the whole bash things we can't afford thing is sort of silly. It's not worth $20,000 to me, but I don't have $20,000 to spend for an extravagance. Some do. It looks like a beautiful bike...and it certainly has an interesting history, though the restoration thing sort of hurts the "Confente's Bike" value for many/most. What's it worth? No clue.
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While it is indeed a beautiful restoration and I'm not questioning the integrity of the owners, for $19,500 I personally would need a direct connection from the bike to Mario Confente through photos, paperwork, or a signed receipt from Mario, to pay the price premium for a restored bike.

I have a guitar once owned by Joe Perry and used on tour during the time in the early 1980's that he was with The Joe Perry Project. I have a letter from one of his band members that it was Joe's guitar. However, because the guitar can not be placed in Joe's hands, or directly proven to be his, it doesn't carry a significant price premium over any other guitar of the same model, according to guitar experts. Once I find a photo of him with the guitar, then things will be different.
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Originally Posted by jimmuller View Post
Tire labels don't line up right. I'll pass.

(Would they not have been cutting out "Milano" from the head tube decal?)
Yes and no. Carlsbad used the graphics from Italy at first with Milano and the World Championship bands on the seat tube, so as it has those it is correct. Mario was proud of America though, so if I had the bike repainted I would have found one of the two styles of Masi America seat tube bands and removed the Milano. I would have probably deleted the Faliero signature too.
My quibbles with the bike is the respray used the most recent reproduced graphics on the down tube these use the later color shifted palette and the seat tube panel for my taste is too narrow.

Those deficiencies aside, along with the seat being too low to look its best, this bike is the real deal. There will not be another. If I was the seller I would have images the seat tube looking forward with the seat post removed.
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The seller, John P., is a well known expert of sorts, in the vintage bike world. I would trust the provenance but I agree about the re-paint.
Makes one wonder, did it really need it? Who knows.
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While it is indeed a beautiful restoration and I'm not questioning the integrity of the owners, for $19,500 I personally would need a direct connection from the bike to Mario Confente through photos, paperwork, or a signed receipt from Mario, to pay the price premium for a restored bike.

I have a guitar once owned by Joe Perry and used on tour during the time in the early 1980's that he was with The Joe Perry Project. I have a letter from one of his band members that it was Joe's guitar. However, because the guitar can not be placed in Joe's hands, or directly proven to be his, it doesn't carry a significant price premium over any other guitar of the same model, according to guitar experts. Once I find a photo of him with the guitar, then things will be different.
I would personally take the value of a guitar and half it if Joe Perry touched it. BLECH.

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The seller, John P., is a well known expert of sorts, in the vintage bike world. I would trust the provenance but I agree about the re-paint.
Makes one wonder, did it really need it? Who knows.
It sounds like it had been repainted prior to this repaint iteration...if I read it correctly, it was used by other people and painted in other schemes as needed for that team.
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This it at least the third coat of paint the frame has worn. There are some images out there of the frame in its prior suit but you will have to be a good sleuth to find them, but they are public. The images are not tight enough to tell why it was repainted.
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I would personally take the value of a guitar and half it if Joe Perry touched it. BLECH.
Yeah I know, it's just my dime-a-dozen, beater, Fender guitar. I usually prefer my guitars like I prefer my bikes . . . Italian, pompous, and overpriced.

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Any guesses on what it should/will sell for?

I have no clue. I would love to have it, but not at 20K
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Impossible to say, JR, on something like that. Knowing what little I know of John P, from reading his posts on the CR list, I kind of doubt he is going to discount it any.
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