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Old 01-08-13, 09:12 PM
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Date/Model this Bianchi?



Anyone got a clue? Decals gone, hoping someone will know by the "Bianchi" stamp on the seatstay. Hoping to get serial number soon!

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EDIT: Oh, and before I get bashed, not my picture. Craigslist, of course
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Late 1970s to early 1980s based on over BB cable routing and top tube guides. model.. no idea. it will likely be impossible to ID without original components as many frame looked very similar and were differentiated by their specs. I can say that to my eye it looks like a good one and if the price is right you should go for it. the flat chrome fork crown tell me it is a nice one. that ****ty seatpost is a concern then.. check for pinching and cracking due to clamping an undersized post.
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Were the shifter bosses removed? or did someone mount that bell in the right side one to sort of cover it? is there a brand stamping on the dropouts? Is there anything on the fork crown? how about a fgew better pics? a pic of the scar from the FD would be nice. OH what is the BB threading? Is there anything on the HS?

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Originally Posted by Bianchigirll View Post
Were the shifter bosses removed? or did someone mount that bell in the right side one to sort of cover it? is there a brand stamping on the dropouts? Is there anything on the fork crown? how about a fgew better pics? a pic of the scar from the FD would be nice. OH what is the BB threading? Is there anything on the HS?

If I knew all these things... I would be the first to tell you. This was the only picture of it on craigslist, but the man was nice enough to send me more, I'll upload them when I get home. If it is from the earlier 80's/late 70's, would not the frame be of higher quality? I was told, at some point, that only the finer quality bianchi frames were made in celeste until they moved some production to japan in the later 80's
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According to the pictures, the bell is just covering the downtube bosses. But wait!!! Am I the only one, or can anyone else make out the Shimano 600 logo on the crank arm???




Maybe I'm just seeing things....

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(am no Bianchi expert. so couldn't much of help, but)

if someone in the quote meant "Celeste" as a place in Italy, it may not be a correct info, i am afraid.
Bianch bikes were made in Milano, and Celeste (blue or green whatever called) was the color of Milan's sky in their poetic way later became their signifier color.
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I was told, at some point, that only the finer quality bianchi frames were made in celeste until they moved some production to japan in the later 80's
btw, although i am sure it's been done elsewhere, first time seeing a bell mounted onto the shfter boss. genius!

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80's Japan Professional would be my guess.
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Originally Posted by orangeology View Post
(am no Bianchi expert. so couldn't much of help, but)

if someone in the quote meant "Celeste" as a place in Italy, it may not be a correct info, i am afraid.
Bianch bikes were made in Milano, and Celeste (blue or green whatever called) was the color of Milan's sky in their poetic way later became their signifier color.


btw, although i am sure it's been done elsewhere, first time seeing a bell mounted onto the shfter boss. genius!
No no, I guess I phrased it in a confusing way. "In" as in the color "Celeste".
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ah, my bad. sorry.


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No no, I guess I phrased it in a confusing way. "In" as in the color "Celeste".
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Wow, the crankset is actually a Shimano 600, he just told me. How odd, but it can't be original. Lucky me?
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Well, That Guy Zach was right, 83 Bianchi Professional.

https://bulgier.net/pics/bike/Catalogs/Bianchi-83/03.jpg

If I get it and make it pretty, I'll post a pic or two
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Looks like a Japanese one to me. Maybe a "Professional" from the early 80's.

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Originally Posted by that_guy_zach View Post
80's Japan Professional would be my guess.
That was my first thought but I wanted to see if I could get more evidence

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Wow, the crankset is actually a Shimano 600, he just told me. How odd, but it can't be original. Lucky me?
I was suspecting a 600 or a Ofmega they looked alike but the darker rings had me leaning towards 600. yes it could be original

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Looks like a Japanese one to me. Maybe a "Professional" from the early 80's.

edit (sorry, posted this before reading the thread)
Ny thoughts too
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If I knew all these things... I would be the first to tell you. This was the only picture of it on craigslist, but the man was nice enough to send me more, I'll upload them when I get home. If it is from the earlier 80's/late 70's, would not the frame be of higher quality? I was told, at some point, that only the finer quality bianchi frames were made in celeste until they moved some production to japan in the later 80's
Bianchi made all types of bikes in Italy (esp for the local market) from basic Hitensil "department store" bikes to bikes with the finest Columbus tubing.

As to the Celeste color, I was always under the impression that only Bianchis built in Italy (and usually mid to upperend ones) were painted Celeste. Wether that was a Bianchi USA policy adopted in '85 or a policy of Bianchi VESPA Italy I do not know.

As to this bike, as I suspected this morning the frame does appear to come from a '83/4 Professional based on the combination of... recessed brake mounting, over the BB cable routing, the Bianchi on the stay caps rather than a 'circle B' and the chromed fork crown. The tubing is some type of Ishawata tubiung I believe the 022 like similar year Limiteds. These bikes came with a Superbee Pro and DiaCompe mix kit. The text in the catalog seem to market these bikes to Triathaletes and Criterium racers.
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Well, That Guy Zach was right, 83 Bianchi Professional.

https://bulgier.net/pics/bike/Catalogs/Bianchi-83/03.jpg

If I get it and make it pretty, I'll post a pic or two
This one really had me 'scratching my head'. But I do agree with the identification as a 1983 Bianchi Professional.

The cable guides with the double rings, lack of Bianchi "B" cast into the fork crown and lugs, the "BIANCHI" cast into the stay caps reflected a top of the line model from the late 70's/early 80's, short Campy style rear dropouts, clamp on front derailleur, rear derailleur cable running on top of the BB and rear fork.

As per the 83 catalogue, it was equipped with sun tour / sugino and had a chro/mo tube set. It was most probably a Japanese sourced bike. My personal revelation is that what I thought was an Italian catalogue had Japanese bikes in it too.

I enjoyed searching for my own identification but I missed the mark.
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Yeah, if the bike were original, I'd keep it that way. But might as well go fixie with it, have been meaning to for awhile.
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Yeah, if the bike were original, I'd keep it that way. But might as well go fixie with it, have been meaning to for awhile.


Isn't it a fixie already?
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Isn't it a fixie already?
Well he's shipping it and I'm probably only getting the frame without wheels... and will add my own components and nicer wheels eventually. A buddy of mine had a couple record pista cranks laying around somewhere..
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post the serial number when you recieive it and we can probably put most of your questions to bed.
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Hey T-Mar were these Professionals built in the Orient or in Italy?
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