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should I buy this pair of Legnanos? need quick advice!

Old 01-11-13, 09:12 AM
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should I buy this pair of Legnanos? need quick advice!

Estate sale find this morning. He wants $850 for 2 early-70s Lagnano 6 volte Campione del mondo. I left him with an offer of $500, but am second guessing myself. I was thinking of keeping one and selling the other for what I paid for both. Do you think I can get 500-800 for one of these? Picture shows one but they are almost identical. Appear to be all stock and in need of cleaning, detailing, tires, and bar tape.
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Old 01-11-13, 09:23 AM
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I follow Frejus more than legnanos - but condition looks a little rough on parts/frame rust. Depends on how they clean-up.
my $0.02 is that $350-$400 range each is more realistic . Wheels look rusty, parts and chrome also rusty - so if they had been stored better, then price point may have been different...condition is a negotiation aspect...

PS..the C&V values sub-forum is a better place to post this and get a response....
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Looks like cottered cranks. No way. They need slot of work. I wouldn't pay more than $100-125 each.
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Agreed, $850 seems like a very optimistic price.
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Go back Sunday with a cheaper offer, or let some fool part with his money before then.
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The bike shown in teh terrible picture would appear to be a mid-range model and the asking price is astronomical in my opinion.
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Seller was an idiot for not taking your offer. Be thankful!
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I just got back from this estate sale as well, the bikes are pretty and all original, but expensive. If they are still there on Sunday, you may have a better shot. I just posted about these myself, I guess I should have looked a little farther down the forum...
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Old 01-11-13, 10:59 AM
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Way too much for those.
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Originally Posted by phillyrider View Post
PS..the C&V values sub-forum is a better place to post this and get a response....
Thanks, I didn't notice the sub-group.
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Old 01-11-13, 11:20 AM
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Thanks everyone. This estate sale guy overprices everything. I just wanted to make sure.
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I see a campy record front derailleur so it can't be all bad. would be worth it without the rust, but in that condition it certainly seems high.
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I'd debating on taking both for 125 let alone one for that price. 850...shakes head.
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Pictured one is from the 70s...
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Spoke to the guy last night after he closed. He sold both for full price ($850)!
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Goes to show. Even mid level Legnanos are desirable. Not that many of them out there.
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Goes to show. Even mid level Legnanos are desirable. Not that many of them out there.
Lots in the Bay Area since they were imported here. I have 4 and have sold 3. But I don't think those two were worth $850.
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Lots in the Bay Area since they were imported here. I have 4 and have sold 3. But I don't think those two were worth $850.
Agreed, $850 was a lot for what appeared to be gas pipe Legnanos. Maybe the market for vintage bikes is awakening from its slumber? It took me over two years to sell my 1969 Legnano with lots of Campy and a full Reynolds frame for $450 on Craigslist.
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Goes to show. Even mid level Legnanos are desirable. Not that many of them out there.
I guess I would not have the killer salesman instinct to ask that much for those. Hopefully the buyer will be happy. If buyer attempts to flip them...
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How much interest would he have locally? If there isn't a lot of competition in buying this he might just be bluffing.
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I have to say that is one of the worst/most frustrating photos I have ever seen... virtually every key component is obscured somehow. My best guess is you dodged a bullet and someone else got the shaft, to mix up a few metaphors. I think someone probably did some quickie research on their phone, and knowing little about older bikes, thought they'd found a deal. It's amazing how smartphones lead folks to the wrong information and stupid decisions; I've watched it happen more than once.
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Given this discourse, you'd think they were Schwinn varsitys or 90's mountain bikes. Whoever bought them, if they did, paid too much perhaps, but that's up to them. They might not have gotten pearls, but they did get what looks to be a couple of fairly complete 70's vintage Italian road bikes.
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Funniest thing about the low end 70s Legnanos: they used a blow molded one-piece headtube to simulate the lugs. When you see one of those, look closely. The lug edges on the headtube will be very thin, the lug edges on the top and down tubes will be a normal thickness. During the bike boom, the Italians mixed in a lot of old parts and cost saving techniques to sell bikes in America.
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Funniest thing about the low end 70s Legnanos: they used a blow molded one-piece headtube to simulate the lugs. When you see one of those, look closely. The lug edges on the headtube will be very thin, the lug edges on the top and down tubes will be a normal thickness. During the bike boom, the Italians mixed in a lot of old parts and cost saving techniques to sell bikes in America.
Not sure I would use the term blow molded for a steel part, but yes, the headtube/headlug part was a single unit, stamped then formed around a mandrel. Welded up and the weld ground off a bit. Obviously it saved money, but was not without some effort to get it to look acceptable. The high art of this approach can be found on some Asian bikes usually with very small frames, Trek did it too.
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Originally Posted by Poguemahone View Post
I have to say that is one of the worst/most frustrating photos I have ever seen... virtually every key component is obscured somehow. My best guess is you dodged a bullet and someone else got the shaft, to mix up a few metaphors. I think someone probably did some quickie research on their phone, and knowing little about older bikes, thought they'd found a deal. It's amazing how smartphones lead folks to the wrong information and stupid decisions; I've watched it happen more than once.
It is the picture from his ad. I didn't think to take a pic while there- I was bummed by his pricing. I agree that the buyer probably Googled lagnano and saw some high prices without checking the model. That's what the seller did originally. He first had them at $825 each before checking the model!
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