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Old 01-14-13, 09:44 PM
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Can anyone identify these dropouts?

One of the stranger ones I've come across. Can't find any more or any better of a photo. If anyone has any idea, it would help me out

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Old 01-14-13, 11:22 PM
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Hugonnier Routens (the name of the photo file is hugonnier_routens_rdrop.jpg. This is the web site it came from. http://www.blackbirdsf.org/french/hugonnier_routens/ A little History, Jo Routens (a champion Randonneur rider) and Hugonnier (his business partner) were amongst the small bike builders that sprang up in France after WWII; they started their bike company in 1945. Most of the bikes they made were utilitarian, however Routens was an expert and innovative frame builder. Routens' Randonneur bicycles and tandems were built around the newer components at the time and one of the first to use vertical dropouts with hangers long before they were main stream. His quality bikes are quite rare are really cool to look at because of the unique designs built into them.

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I've seen them on earlier constructeur frames, but have yet to discover their maker.

Here is a link to view a vélo that incorporate this proprietary mudguard stay threading front & rear.


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This is a very old post so please excuse if no longer pertinent. Here is a photo of the drop outs on a Paul Charrel I recently acquired. I'm looking for other Charrel owners to get some details as we rebuild this bicycle bult-I believe-in 1978. I've serached the internet and there is some, but not much info on this maker's cycles. I especially need info regarding the generator actuating cable and lever that mounts on the seal post. Also, the lighting wiring.
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