Oh, yeah. My sister lives in the Minneapolis vicinity, and we've done day trips out and about when I've visited. Beautiful countryside, and I know what you mean about the short but steep hills. You have 'em!

My gearing needs will be more long n steady type. I think a low gear in the 35"-37" range is all I need for the long grades here. I can manage the steeper stuff by getting out of the saddle on occasion.

Campy reccomends the short cage RD with a compact as long as you use cassettes smaller than a 13-29. A short cage with a compact and 12-25 works fantastic.

Jumping to the medium lets you use the larger cassettes.


Edit: my tech book predates the latest RD change. I belive the cange only allowed for a larger max cog and not a change in capacity.

Ahh. Good. Looks like the short cage will cover me then. a 34-27 might be the limit, I'd imagine, with the shorter arm.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...:B:WNA:US:1123

The winner of this one isn't going to be as lucky. 182.50, 14 bidders and 4 hrs to go, last minute rush I suspect, but still a killer deal this late in the game.

Wow! Looks like a re-paint, and the BB shell does not appear to have the Ciocc cutout, but the stay caps and fork crown help identify it.
It looks to me like if it is a 59, that it is a c-t measurement - the frame looks smaller than a 59 c-c to me.

It'll be a great deal for someone, for sure!

FWIW (and that might not be much) my early San Cristobal frame does have a chainstay bridge, and it's one of those "hourglass" shaped jobs that might be a Gipiemme bit.
My much later Ciocc frame has no bridge down there since it has a Cinelli "spoiler" BB shell. Assumption is that this later frame was made by a contract-builder, maybe Billotti.

Thanks.
It seems that the Designer Mod '84's were made without the bridge. I think the BB shell design is the key - the inner lug points are pretty long, and the shell/lug is pretty beefy.

Just won a set of properly sized 3T Forma SL Ergo bars on the bay for super cheap. Nice short reach (76mm) and reasonable drop (144mm). These are selling NOS for $100+ so it was a no brainer on this used set. These are "smoked" finish, which should be a perfect match for the chrome. Other than the usual adhesive, they look like they're in very good shape. $23 including shipping - hard to beat.
Once I get them, I'll suss out whether I think they'll work for me. If not, I'll pass the savings on to a BF'er before selling them elsewhere.

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/3T-3TTT-Forma...UFw~~60_57.JPG

My favorite bars. On both my De Rosa and Cinelli. Preferably matched with a Record 84 stem:

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=294837

oooh. That's pretty.
Good to hear your feedback on the bars. I rode some Cinelli ergo bend bars in the late '90's and really liked them, so it is encouraging to hear about the 3T's.

I prefer a very stiff stem (I don't like the way old quill stems twist), and my two NOS chromoly stems are too long for this application, so I just picked up one of these:

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Syntace-Force...GQg~~60_57.JPG

;) :lol:

Nice. I nearly bought the same one but then scored a NOS salsa road (-17 130mm) stem at a price I couldn't pass up. So far it seems pretty darn stiff for a 130mm. It feels comparative to a threadless setup with 26mm bars. I haven't tried one like yours, but I hear they are similar.

Sweet. For 1" steerer frames, I find that chromoly and ti quill stems offer the perfect mix of modern stiffness/strength with an easier on the eyes appearance than threadless.

Just sniped (last 10 s bid within ebay, not sniping software ;) ) a saddle on Ebay. New pull-off from an Orbea - Selle Italia SLR flow with vanox rails. Bit by bit the build is coming together.

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/SELLE-ITALIA-...OcKg~~60_3.JPG

Every piece you have gotten is right up my alley.

;)
I'm being methodical. So far, I'm getting some nice stuff for reasonable cost. I'm happy if I can get new stuff off of Ebay for 1/3 retail and about 1/2 of typical online discount pricing. That's my rule of thumb when setting my max bid in the last 10 seconds. If I win it, cool. If not, I move on.
The only exception so far is the stem. It was a buy it now on a NOS item, so not much leeway there, and the used market for my precise needs is slim.

I didn't need much for my build but i tried the same. I ended up with two outright purchases. the NOS stem but it was the exact size I needed and less than half of retail. The other was the bars. Finding black 26mm compact bars on the used market is tough and I had a gift card to my LBS. I'm still short bar tape but that is minor.

Yeah, I don't mind paying full ticket on some items for any build.

Especially if it's something my two favorite local shops carry.

Aside from that though, I diligently seek the nicest components at a fair price.

It sure is nice every once in a while to catch the 25% off sale price I found on my new Fulcrums!

I am getting twitchy thinking about the build for that wheelset.

BTW Nice score on the saddle Canyoneagle. That is a sweet addition.

I'm not sure how black is going to look on a red and chrome frame. I assume you're just getting it up and running with parts that you prefer over period correct right?

Definitely.
If the chroming was pure chrome then a polished alloy build would be a no brainer for me. With the smoked chrome, most of the reflections in the chrome are black, so I can take it either way aesthetically. It is more of a "gunmetal grey" color than bright chrome.

I could still take it either way, but still leaning towards black. It's not a done deal yet ;)

I'm going with a 10 or 11 speed modern drive train, currently thinking Athena 11 with the mid-compact 52/36 crank would do the trick nicely.

Thanks - I'm excited about the saddle. I've ridden the original non-channel (2003 or so) SLR and loved it, so if the cut/shape has not changed much, it should be a great saddle.

LOL on the fulcrums. You're going to do an awesome build, and you know it :thumb:

Yeah, I am going backwards on the build.

I am purchasing parts first, which is sort of whacked, but I certainly know the frameset I'll use.

Got a line on a very nice Ritchey Swiss Cross.

The frame is hanging on a hook in a friend's garage.

I'll likely buy it this spring unless something else shows first.

Ah I see. The darkness of the chrome doesn't really come through in the pics but I'm sure you know what you're doing :)
I can't wait to see it come together!

Okay, with the exception of the wheels, I now have all of the non-grouppo components spoken for. I just got a seatpost for a low BIN on the bay. I'm not wild about the multi-color WCS logo, but the post is ideal for my functional needs.

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Ritchey-WCS-1...s(w~~60_57.JPG