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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake
(Post 16311323)
That pink 770 is one of the hottest bikes I've seen - LOVE it.
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Originally Posted by The Golden Boy
(Post 16311491)
The "series" is going to tell you what the frame is.
Generally, until 1986, a 500 series frame is going to be a quality Ishiwata or Reynolds CrMo throughout or may have Mangalloy fork and stays. The 600 series stuff is going to have 531 main frame, but CrMo or Mangalloy fork and stays. The 700 series stuff is 531 throughout. The 900 series stuff is Columbus throughout. In 86, they started mixing and matching 531 with different CrMo- but still, the only way you were getting 531 throughout was a 700 series frame. Looking at the 86 catalog- the 500 had a 531 frame, but Tange CrMo fork and unidentified CrMo stays. My 86 400 Elance has a 531 frame, but Tange CrMo fork and stays. Yeah my 500 has the 531 but just in the 3 main tubes I guess. Still a pretty comfortable bike for the long haul. I believe I had Tange in my older Univega Gran Rally If I remember correctly (which I might not) and it didn't really seem that much different other than perhaps the angles and handling. Now the first Columbus SP 970 road Trek I had was noticably different. |
Originally Posted by cb400bill
(Post 16312431)
I agree. Looks and rides great. Here is an updated pic of mine.
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Originally Posted by Italuminium
(Post 16312514)
pretty in pink, Bill!
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Originally Posted by Zinger
(Post 16312504)
OK Thanks
Yeah my 500 has the 531 but just in the 3 main tubes I guess. Still a pretty comfortable bike for the long haul. I believe I had Tange in my older Univega Gran Rally If I remember correctly (which I might not) and it didn't really seem that much different other than perhaps the angles and handling. Now the first Columbus SP 970 road Trek I had was noticably different. People can love a bike for 20 years, but get seriously bent out of shape finding out that their bike isn't 531 frame, fork and stays. My 620 is 531CS. Butted 531 main tubes and CrMo stays and fork- that's what 531CS is. It has a really long wheelbase and crazy long chainstays. It's a pretty sturdy bike- about as heavy as you'd expect a touring bike to be, but quite stable and flex resistant as a bike with that kind of length is going to be able to be- and it's handled every load I've put on there. By contrast, my 736 has a much shorter wheelbase- and seriously like 6cm shorter chainstays. It is much more lively than my 620- and I can only imagine how bouncy it would be with 6cm longer chainstays- it might be kind of fun- but I can see where the stability would be greatly preferred- especially under load. It's a great riding bike, it has a responsible weight, well thought out geometry and design- the fact that it has a little 531 sticker that belongs on there is just gravy. |
Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake
(Post 16314187)
The best frame builders all use different tubes in their frames...and all of them will tell you that the tubing doesn't define a bike, it's what you do with it. It's fun to say "my bike is _____" for snob appeal, but that's all it is. Do you like the bike? That's all that matters (until it comes time to sell it).
This is correct, and they use different tubing due to certain characteristics of one type of tube will be more suitable in one area but not in another. Obviously some builders will stick to all the tubes from one manufacture, so I really think it's just personal taste with the builder. Most, though not all, factory type of bikes were usually built with tube sets from one manufacture; most custom builders, though not all, usually blended the tubesets. I have ridden tubesets that I thought were noodly, most notable a mid 70's Peugeot PX10 that flexed like crazy, later a Trek 760 while not as bad as the Peugeot made me pass on it for a 660 that was stiffer. But in general I don't think there is a whole lot of difference between tubesets but there is a difference in how the geometry of a bike is set up. Here's an interesting read about all of this: http://www.bgcycles.com/frame-tubing-selection.html |
Originally Posted by The Golden Boy
(Post 16314146)
Don't think that it somehow means your bike is inferior or anything- Prior to 1986, your 500 would have been a 600 series bike. More important than the prestige of being "all 531" is that the bike is stable enough to do the stuff you want to do and carry the loads that it's capable of without being too flexy.
People can love a bike for 20 years, but get seriously bent out of shape finding out that their bike isn't 531 frame, fork and stays. My 620 is 531CS. Butted 531 main tubes and CrMo stays and fork- that's what 531CS is. It has a really long wheelbase and crazy long chainstays. It's a pretty sturdy bike- about as heavy as you'd expect a touring bike to be, but quite stable and flex resistant as a bike with that kind of length is going to be able to be- and it's handled every load I've put on there. By contrast, my 736 has a much shorter wheelbase- and seriously like 6cm shorter chainstays. It is much more lively than my 620- and I can only imagine how bouncy it would be with 6cm longer chainstays- it might be kind of fun- but I can see where the stability would be greatly preferred- especially under load. It's a great riding bike, it has a responsible weight, well thought out geometry and design- the fact that it has a little 531 sticker that belongs on there is just gravy. |
Originally Posted by Zinger
(Post 16315386)
Yeah I've appreciated the ride quality of the '86 500 as soon as I rode it out of the LBS where I bought it. If I hadn't I probably wouldn't have stuck to just one bike until this year. I had thought of doing some touring with this one but am only now changing derailleurs and cranks to gear down some for the hills and that's just because of old age and sore knees after a decade layoff from riding. When I retire I might do some light short touring with it yet.
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I am amazed at the colors Trek has used, I have one they call taupe. It has grown on me, I call it gold.
Gotta love a Trek. |
Originally Posted by a77impala
(Post 16317217)
I am amazed at the colors Trek has used, I have one they call taupe. It has grown on me, I call it gold.
Gotta love a Trek. |
If anyone is still looking, I am selling my Trek 770 :(.... The wife said that I have to let it go if I want my new Carbon TT bike. Mine is in great condition! Everything matches original specs except the hoods are black instead of gummy color and of course it doesn't have the original tires.. I should have it up on eBay early next week. I will also post a link here... Size is a 56 or 58... I can't remember. Let me know if you want a sneak peak!
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Too bad your wife won't allow you to keep your 770.
And yes, please post up some pics of yours! |
Originally Posted by r1bandit14
(Post 16645276)
If anyone is still looking, I am selling my Trek 770 :(.... The wife said that I have to let it go if I want my new Carbon TT bike. Mine is in great condition! Everything matches original specs except the hoods are black instead of gummy color and of course it doesn't have the original tires.. I should have it up on eBay early next week. I will also post a link here... Size is a 56 or 58... I can't remember. Let me know if you want a sneak peak!
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