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TampaRaleigh 03-06-13 08:12 AM

Next project... 2 speed coastie? Your thoughts?
 
Now that I've finished up my son's bike, I'm in the planning/gathering stages for my next project. Here's the frame that I'm starting with:

http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps11efae0e.jpg

(It's not rare or unusual... plenty of these old Raleighs around, so try not to get too upset about my plans. ;) )

Here's what I'm thinking. I want something very "clean" looking.

1. Downtube shifter bosses - gone.
2. Top tube cable guides - gone.
3. Chainstay derailleur cable stop - gone.
4. Strip frame and powdercoat in cream/offwhite color.
5. Fork is bent - replace with chrome fork.
6. GB Randonneur bars and GB stem. (Already have)
7. Stitch-on brown elkhide bar "tape".
8. Brown brooks saddle.
9. Some kind of "track" (single chainring) crankset. (I'm open to suggestion for a good British crankset)
10. SRAM 2 speed automatix coaster brake hub.
11. Vintage high flange front hub.
12. VO PBP polished rims.
13. 700x28 tires
14. Fenders.


Thoughts and/or ideas?

azgreg 03-06-13 08:58 AM

Sounds cool, can't wait to see it done.

Velognome 03-06-13 09:03 AM

My thoughts....dropbars and some tread on the rear wheel to lay down some awsome skids.....my other thought would be to use a bigger frame so I could ride too!

cobrabyte 03-06-13 11:49 AM

Sounds like a fun build! Perfect from for it too

TampaRaleigh 03-06-13 01:11 PM

The only thing that I'm REALLY having a hard time with is the crankset.

Should I go classic:
http://velobase.com/CompImages/Crank...A502E2E79.jpeg

Or more modern with a classic look:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4016/...b4c25eae5b.jpg

John E 03-06-13 01:33 PM

For general fooling around, it is arguably a fun project. My first bike was a Schwinn "middleweight" with a 2-speed Bendix coaster hub controlled by a shifter which resembled a brake lever. I got a low-end 10-speed about 6 months later and never looked back. What I hated about the Schwinn was that I frequently needed something between the 67 gear-inch high and the 50 gear-inch low.

Your Raleigh would be much lighter and more responsive than my Schwinn.

Cross Creek 03-06-13 01:37 PM

I've done a couple like that, only with somewhat more recent vintage frames (one of which I ground off all the offending braze ons and powder coated), as well as a Rivendell Sam I'm finishing up right now with the freewheel version of that hub. The Automatix hub is seamless in operation and (so far) bulletproof. The two bikes I used the coaster version on have 26" mtb rims, one with Soma New Xpress 1.95 tires (corrected--I had forgotten the Fat Franks didn't fit)-- a sort of lightweight cruiser on an old Bianchi Milano frame. The Sam has VO rims in 650b. For the converted Milano, I used a NOS crank that I had a devil of a time finding a silver chain ring for (94mm), the other got a Pake track/single set from Soma. The Sam got a clone of your pictured IRD made by FSA (Gimondi track set) from Universal. Any way you go, I'll bet you'll love the end result. There's something hypnotic about a single speed with overdrive!

TampaRaleigh 03-06-13 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by John E (Post 15352548)
For general fooling around, it is arguably a fun project. My first bike was a Schwinn "middleweight" with a 2-speed Bendix coaster hub controlled by a shifter which resembled a brake lever. I got a low-end 10-speed about 6 months later and never looked back. What I hated about the Schwinn was that I frequently needed something between the 67 gear-inch high and the 50 gear-inch low.

Your Raleigh would be much lighter and more responsive than my Schwinn.

That's exactly what I'm going for. A "fooling around" bike for leisurely rides, picnics, etc. Being in Florida, the terrain is flat enough that we rarely need a range of gears, but sometimes it's nice to have a low gear for pedalling up overpasses.

nlerner 03-06-13 01:46 PM

I have the SRAM 2-speed automatic shifting hub on one bike and like it a great deal. The gear ratios are a bit wacky, so I'm still fiddling with what's ideal, but it's a much better performing hub than the Sturmey Archer two-speed kick back, which I killed after a winter of commuting on it.

Velognome 03-06-13 01:59 PM

I wouldn't want a smashed cotter ending my afternoon and laying down rubber...so I'd go cotterless

mparker326 03-06-13 02:15 PM

I've built up several of the 2 speed coaster bikes, but I've used vintage Bendix hubs. They are cool for cruising around, but that is about it. My advice would be: build up the wheel first and make sure you like it before you put all that money into the bike.

puchfinnland 03-06-13 02:36 PM

im rebuilding a duomatic hub and complete bike , just started this afternoon.
I love the simlpicity of it.
waiting for the parts which should come this week
the LBS boss even likes the bike

TampaRaleigh 03-06-13 02:38 PM

This may be a dumb question... but are there any English, single chainring, cotterless cranks? I honestly can't think of any manufacturers at the moment... and I wanted to try to keep this "as English as possible".

puchfinnland 03-06-13 02:46 PM

stronglight 3 spider cranks look plenty proper!

TampaRaleigh 03-06-13 02:50 PM


Originally Posted by puchfinnland (Post 15352914)
stronglight 3 spider cranks look plenty proper!

:thumb:

Velognome 03-06-13 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by TampaRaleigh (Post 15352878)
This may be a dumb question... but are there any English, single chainring, cotterless cranks? I honestly can't think of any manufacturers at the moment... and I wanted to try to keep this "as English as possible".

Take a double...use the outer ring and file off (gasp! :eek: ) the inner shoulders....It's now a single

JohnDThompson 03-06-13 03:20 PM


Originally Posted by TampaRaleigh (Post 15352878)
This may be a dumb question... but are there any English, single chainring, cotterless cranks? I honestly can't think of any manufacturers at the moment... and I wanted to try to keep this "as English as possible".

Williams:

http://farm2.staticflickr.com/1044/6...88b996c4_z.jpg

TampaRaleigh 03-06-13 03:41 PM


Originally Posted by johndthompson (Post 15353063)

want! Need! Must have!!!

nlerner 03-06-13 04:05 PM


Originally Posted by TampaRaleigh (Post 15352878)
This may be a dumb question... but are there any English, single chainring, cotterless cranks? I honestly can't think of any manufacturers at the moment... and I wanted to try to keep this "as English as possible".

Lots of English bikes used Stronglight or Nervar cotterless cranks. I like running a Stronglight 93 with a single ring:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-4...0/IMG_6022.JPG

sailorbenjamin 03-06-13 04:31 PM

I like coaster brakes a lot. I just got a 2 speed SA hub, but it would be great in 2 of the bikes I ride a lot and I can't decide which.

Velognome 03-06-13 05:06 PM


Originally Posted by JohnDThompson (Post 15353063)
Williams:


Good call , Hilarystone has one for 125pounds....call before midnight tonight to prevent future regret

Saguaro 03-06-13 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by TampaRaleigh (Post 15352444)
The only thing that I'm REALLY having a hard time with is the crankset.

Should I go classic:
http://velobase.com/CompImages/Crank...A502E2E79.jpeg

Or more modern with a classic look:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4016/...b4c25eae5b.jpg

Go modern with the classic look. Then panto the crankset with the Cream colored paint. This will look great with the SRAM hub and the overall look of the bike.

TampaRaleigh 03-13-13 06:19 AM

Progress is slow (for financial reasons)... but it's progress nonetheless!

Stem and center section of bars polished:
http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps392f95ae.jpg

http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps5d86a766.jpg

Chrome fork on its way... hopefully before the weekend.

TampaRaleigh 03-19-13 08:21 AM

All of the unneeded bits have been hacked off of the frame and it's in the shop being stripped, sandblasted and powdercoated. I can't wait to see how it will turn out!

Another apology to the "purists" out there... I ordered downtube decals from Cyclomondo. RL49. I always loved this font. Other than that, the frame will be naked of decals.
http://cyclomondo.net/USERIMAGES/Raleigh%207.jpg

sailorbenjamin 03-19-13 10:33 PM

My favorite Raleigh font, too.
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/l...n/IMG_5433.jpg

Singlespeed92 03-19-13 10:39 PM

Sounds like a cool project,looking forward to seeing it :D

TampaRaleigh 03-25-13 06:52 AM

More goodies scored off of Ebay this weekend!

SR Seat post:
http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/a...psc7c5cd1f.jpg

Nervar crankset:
http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps5544051f.jpg

I plan on polishing both up, and filling in the fluted bits with cream paint to match the frame.

The chainrings will be replaced with a single, probably 40 - 42.

Salubrious 03-25-13 07:54 PM

I did something like this a few years back. I used a Terry Osell fillet-brazed frame that I found at a swap meet cheap. Terry Osell used to work at the Waterford Paramount shop back in the 70s or 80s.... I interviewed him about the frame and he identified it as one of the two lightest frames he had ever built.

The problem was there was no provision for a rear brake as it was a fixie track frame. I wanted to ride it on the street.... So I built it up with a Bendix 2-speed hub on a Velocity 700c rim. I built the front wheel with a black Campy record hub, which matched the black fork and black Velocity rims. Brooks saddle, carbon fiber seatpost, tried a variety of quill stems and settled on a black Bianchi stem with some composite bars. I installed a black Campy dual-pivot on the front, seems to me a Sugino crank with about 44 teeth. Overall the bike came in at 17 pounds despite the Bendix hub.

I broke the hub and rebuilt the wheel with a new Sturmey Archer 2-speed. I sold the bike to a friend of mine, but I will see if I can get a photo. It was really pretty- that frame was really amazing. The bike was super fast, and just enough gear to handle most of the Twin Cities, unless you went too far east :)

TampaRaleigh 03-26-13 06:54 AM


Originally Posted by Salubrious (Post 15431430)
I did something like this a few years back. I used a Terry Osell fillet-brazed frame that I found at a swap meet cheap. Terry Osell used to work at the Waterford Paramount shop back in the 70s or 80s.... I interviewed him about the frame and he identified it as one of the two lightest frames he had ever built.

The problem was there was no provision for a rear brake as it was a fixie track frame. I wanted to ride it on the street.... So I built it up with a Bendix 2-speed hub on a Velocity 700c rim. I built the front wheel with a black Campy record hub, which matched the black fork and black Velocity rims. Brooks saddle, carbon fiber seatpost, tried a variety of quill stems and settled on a black Bianchi stem with some composite bars. I installed a black Campy dual-pivot on the front, seems to me a Sugino crank with about 44 teeth. Overall the bike came in at 17 pounds despite the Bendix hub.

I broke the hub and rebuilt the wheel with a new Sturmey Archer 2-speed. I sold the bike to a friend of mine, but I will see if I can get a photo. It was really pretty- that frame was really amazing. The bike was super fast, and just enough gear to handle most of the Twin Cities, unless you went too far east :)

Very nice!

Lucky thing about living in Florida... I really don't need a wide range of gears. I'll probably set it up so that I'll spend most of my time in "low gear" and reserve "high gear" for those times when I have a nice tailwind. LOL

TampaRaleigh 03-29-13 07:53 AM

Dropped off the frame at the powdercoater 2 weeks ago today... I just called to find out the status. The owner wasn't happy with how it turned out, so he stripped it again and started over. I guess that means that he's a perfectionist. Should be ready this afternoon.


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