Next project... 2 speed coastie? Your thoughts?
Now that I've finished up my son's bike, I'm in the planning/gathering stages for my next project. Here's the frame that I'm starting with:
http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps11efae0e.jpg (It's not rare or unusual... plenty of these old Raleighs around, so try not to get too upset about my plans. ;) ) Here's what I'm thinking. I want something very "clean" looking. 1. Downtube shifter bosses - gone. 2. Top tube cable guides - gone. 3. Chainstay derailleur cable stop - gone. 4. Strip frame and powdercoat in cream/offwhite color. 5. Fork is bent - replace with chrome fork. 6. GB Randonneur bars and GB stem. (Already have) 7. Stitch-on brown elkhide bar "tape". 8. Brown brooks saddle. 9. Some kind of "track" (single chainring) crankset. (I'm open to suggestion for a good British crankset) 10. SRAM 2 speed automatix coaster brake hub. 11. Vintage high flange front hub. 12. VO PBP polished rims. 13. 700x28 tires 14. Fenders. Thoughts and/or ideas? |
Sounds cool, can't wait to see it done.
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My thoughts....dropbars and some tread on the rear wheel to lay down some awsome skids.....my other thought would be to use a bigger frame so I could ride too!
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Sounds like a fun build! Perfect from for it too
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The only thing that I'm REALLY having a hard time with is the crankset.
Should I go classic: http://velobase.com/CompImages/Crank...A502E2E79.jpeg Or more modern with a classic look: http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4016/...b4c25eae5b.jpg |
For general fooling around, it is arguably a fun project. My first bike was a Schwinn "middleweight" with a 2-speed Bendix coaster hub controlled by a shifter which resembled a brake lever. I got a low-end 10-speed about 6 months later and never looked back. What I hated about the Schwinn was that I frequently needed something between the 67 gear-inch high and the 50 gear-inch low.
Your Raleigh would be much lighter and more responsive than my Schwinn. |
I've done a couple like that, only with somewhat more recent vintage frames (one of which I ground off all the offending braze ons and powder coated), as well as a Rivendell Sam I'm finishing up right now with the freewheel version of that hub. The Automatix hub is seamless in operation and (so far) bulletproof. The two bikes I used the coaster version on have 26" mtb rims, one with Soma New Xpress 1.95 tires (corrected--I had forgotten the Fat Franks didn't fit)-- a sort of lightweight cruiser on an old Bianchi Milano frame. The Sam has VO rims in 650b. For the converted Milano, I used a NOS crank that I had a devil of a time finding a silver chain ring for (94mm), the other got a Pake track/single set from Soma. The Sam got a clone of your pictured IRD made by FSA (Gimondi track set) from Universal. Any way you go, I'll bet you'll love the end result. There's something hypnotic about a single speed with overdrive!
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Originally Posted by John E
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For general fooling around, it is arguably a fun project. My first bike was a Schwinn "middleweight" with a 2-speed Bendix coaster hub controlled by a shifter which resembled a brake lever. I got a low-end 10-speed about 6 months later and never looked back. What I hated about the Schwinn was that I frequently needed something between the 67 gear-inch high and the 50 gear-inch low.
Your Raleigh would be much lighter and more responsive than my Schwinn. |
I have the SRAM 2-speed automatic shifting hub on one bike and like it a great deal. The gear ratios are a bit wacky, so I'm still fiddling with what's ideal, but it's a much better performing hub than the Sturmey Archer two-speed kick back, which I killed after a winter of commuting on it.
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I wouldn't want a smashed cotter ending my afternoon and laying down rubber...so I'd go cotterless
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I've built up several of the 2 speed coaster bikes, but I've used vintage Bendix hubs. They are cool for cruising around, but that is about it. My advice would be: build up the wheel first and make sure you like it before you put all that money into the bike.
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im rebuilding a duomatic hub and complete bike , just started this afternoon.
I love the simlpicity of it. waiting for the parts which should come this week the LBS boss even likes the bike |
This may be a dumb question... but are there any English, single chainring, cotterless cranks? I honestly can't think of any manufacturers at the moment... and I wanted to try to keep this "as English as possible".
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stronglight 3 spider cranks look plenty proper!
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Originally Posted by puchfinnland
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stronglight 3 spider cranks look plenty proper!
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Originally Posted by TampaRaleigh
(Post 15352878)
This may be a dumb question... but are there any English, single chainring, cotterless cranks? I honestly can't think of any manufacturers at the moment... and I wanted to try to keep this "as English as possible".
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Originally Posted by TampaRaleigh
(Post 15352878)
This may be a dumb question... but are there any English, single chainring, cotterless cranks? I honestly can't think of any manufacturers at the moment... and I wanted to try to keep this "as English as possible".
http://farm2.staticflickr.com/1044/6...88b996c4_z.jpg |
Originally Posted by johndthompson
(Post 15353063)
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Originally Posted by TampaRaleigh
(Post 15352878)
This may be a dumb question... but are there any English, single chainring, cotterless cranks? I honestly can't think of any manufacturers at the moment... and I wanted to try to keep this "as English as possible".
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-4...0/IMG_6022.JPG |
I like coaster brakes a lot. I just got a 2 speed SA hub, but it would be great in 2 of the bikes I ride a lot and I can't decide which.
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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
(Post 15353063)
Williams:
Good call , Hilarystone has one for 125pounds....call before midnight tonight to prevent future regret |
Originally Posted by TampaRaleigh
(Post 15352444)
The only thing that I'm REALLY having a hard time with is the crankset.
Should I go classic: http://velobase.com/CompImages/Crank...A502E2E79.jpeg Or more modern with a classic look: http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4016/...b4c25eae5b.jpg |
Progress is slow (for financial reasons)... but it's progress nonetheless!
Stem and center section of bars polished: http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps392f95ae.jpg http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps5d86a766.jpg Chrome fork on its way... hopefully before the weekend. |
All of the unneeded bits have been hacked off of the frame and it's in the shop being stripped, sandblasted and powdercoated. I can't wait to see how it will turn out!
Another apology to the "purists" out there... I ordered downtube decals from Cyclomondo. RL49. I always loved this font. Other than that, the frame will be naked of decals. http://cyclomondo.net/USERIMAGES/Raleigh%207.jpg |
My favorite Raleigh font, too.
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/l...n/IMG_5433.jpg |
Sounds like a cool project,looking forward to seeing it :D
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More goodies scored off of Ebay this weekend!
SR Seat post: http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/a...psc7c5cd1f.jpg Nervar crankset: http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps5544051f.jpg I plan on polishing both up, and filling in the fluted bits with cream paint to match the frame. The chainrings will be replaced with a single, probably 40 - 42. |
I did something like this a few years back. I used a Terry Osell fillet-brazed frame that I found at a swap meet cheap. Terry Osell used to work at the Waterford Paramount shop back in the 70s or 80s.... I interviewed him about the frame and he identified it as one of the two lightest frames he had ever built.
The problem was there was no provision for a rear brake as it was a fixie track frame. I wanted to ride it on the street.... So I built it up with a Bendix 2-speed hub on a Velocity 700c rim. I built the front wheel with a black Campy record hub, which matched the black fork and black Velocity rims. Brooks saddle, carbon fiber seatpost, tried a variety of quill stems and settled on a black Bianchi stem with some composite bars. I installed a black Campy dual-pivot on the front, seems to me a Sugino crank with about 44 teeth. Overall the bike came in at 17 pounds despite the Bendix hub. I broke the hub and rebuilt the wheel with a new Sturmey Archer 2-speed. I sold the bike to a friend of mine, but I will see if I can get a photo. It was really pretty- that frame was really amazing. The bike was super fast, and just enough gear to handle most of the Twin Cities, unless you went too far east :) |
Originally Posted by Salubrious
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I did something like this a few years back. I used a Terry Osell fillet-brazed frame that I found at a swap meet cheap. Terry Osell used to work at the Waterford Paramount shop back in the 70s or 80s.... I interviewed him about the frame and he identified it as one of the two lightest frames he had ever built.
The problem was there was no provision for a rear brake as it was a fixie track frame. I wanted to ride it on the street.... So I built it up with a Bendix 2-speed hub on a Velocity 700c rim. I built the front wheel with a black Campy record hub, which matched the black fork and black Velocity rims. Brooks saddle, carbon fiber seatpost, tried a variety of quill stems and settled on a black Bianchi stem with some composite bars. I installed a black Campy dual-pivot on the front, seems to me a Sugino crank with about 44 teeth. Overall the bike came in at 17 pounds despite the Bendix hub. I broke the hub and rebuilt the wheel with a new Sturmey Archer 2-speed. I sold the bike to a friend of mine, but I will see if I can get a photo. It was really pretty- that frame was really amazing. The bike was super fast, and just enough gear to handle most of the Twin Cities, unless you went too far east :) Lucky thing about living in Florida... I really don't need a wide range of gears. I'll probably set it up so that I'll spend most of my time in "low gear" and reserve "high gear" for those times when I have a nice tailwind. LOL |
Dropped off the frame at the powdercoater 2 weeks ago today... I just called to find out the status. The owner wasn't happy with how it turned out, so he stripped it again and started over. I guess that means that he's a perfectionist. Should be ready this afternoon.
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