Snow day arrival: Frejus
#26
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Alta California
Posts: 14,263
Mentioned: 415 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3811 Post(s)
Liked 3,337 Times
in
2,177 Posts
There is a Frejus and Legnano group page on flickr, titled "E. Bozzi group: Frejus and Legnano"
Here: https://www.flickr.com/groups/1330352@N21/
Here: https://www.flickr.com/groups/1330352@N21/
We should contact the host to request equal representation for Wolsit.
#27
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Alta California
Posts: 14,263
Mentioned: 415 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3811 Post(s)
Liked 3,337 Times
in
2,177 Posts
Would like to resurrect this thread since it seems that many more Frejus bikes are coming out of the woodwork, perhaps because of the growing popularity of Eroica-type rides. I have seen more without seat tube serial numbers, more monochrome bikes, and more with mixed component groups, as well as several with windowed lugs like mine. Given the lack of top tube cable guides, 126 OLD rear spacing, five speed FW, braze on downtube shifter mounts, and brazed on BB cable guide, am still thinking mid to late 70's, with a good chance the frame was made by Bianchi or a contracted builder.
After a lot of research, I'm thinking the Ofmega crank/BB/headset/hubs, Weinmann brakeset, and Campagnolo FD may be original to the bike, based on period correctness and what I was told by the original owner. The RD is a later Athena, first year production, so perhaps replaced when the original RD wore out in the late 80's. The rims don't match, but the Weinmann expert I consulted said that it would be hard to determine which one was original to the bike, and the OO is very elderly and just can't remember exact details of what was done to his bike 35 years ago.
I've kept the bike in climate controlled storage for the past three years and would like to either restore it (full teardown, bearing service, rubout and wax frame, new tires and tubes, replace cables and housing, obtain correct seatpost and saddle, match rims, etc.) or sell it off as a barn/basement find, which it really was. Regardless, I'll sell it one way or another since it's really too tall for me and I have several other Eroica style rides in my collection.
Would appreciate any info that the forum can provide, or any ideas regarding correct rims, etc. I do have a Pat 78 NR RD set aside for it, which is at least in the ballpark in terms or correct date period, as well as a set of 70's era Campy shifters, although I think the Simplex ones would also be correct.
Thanks to all.
After a lot of research, I'm thinking the Ofmega crank/BB/headset/hubs, Weinmann brakeset, and Campagnolo FD may be original to the bike, based on period correctness and what I was told by the original owner. The RD is a later Athena, first year production, so perhaps replaced when the original RD wore out in the late 80's. The rims don't match, but the Weinmann expert I consulted said that it would be hard to determine which one was original to the bike, and the OO is very elderly and just can't remember exact details of what was done to his bike 35 years ago.
I've kept the bike in climate controlled storage for the past three years and would like to either restore it (full teardown, bearing service, rubout and wax frame, new tires and tubes, replace cables and housing, obtain correct seatpost and saddle, match rims, etc.) or sell it off as a barn/basement find, which it really was. Regardless, I'll sell it one way or another since it's really too tall for me and I have several other Eroica style rides in my collection.
Would appreciate any info that the forum can provide, or any ideas regarding correct rims, etc. I do have a Pat 78 NR RD set aside for it, which is at least in the ballpark in terms or correct date period, as well as a set of 70's era Campy shifters, although I think the Simplex ones would also be correct.
Thanks to all.
If we take the OFMEGA components to be original the cycle must be a two down from the top sort of model. Giostra launched the OFMEGA product line ~1966 and closed ~1985 (iirc!). The chainset pictured is in the middle of the range; there were two models above it and two below.
The machine's Campag Record front mech is cpsc so that means it cannot be earlier than 1976.
Did she come with a saddle & saddle pillar? They are not pictured nor mentioned.
Is the stem/bar set a 3TTT 78?
Keep in mind that the 126mm rear spacing may possibly represent a post manufacture tweak. Not asserting that this is the case.
Have in my files some Bozzi literature from 1976 so they were still going then, at least in some form. Emilio's murder was 1974.
Look forward to reading the observations of others more knowledgeable.
Last edited by juvela; 02-09-16 at 02:27 PM. Reason: addition
#28
Banned.
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 27,199
Mentioned: 34 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 378 Post(s)
Liked 1,409 Times
in
909 Posts
OK Doc Cannondale, how tall is "too tall?" I feel like drinking milk and growing into it...as my mom used to say.
Would like to resurrect this thread since it seems that many more Frejus bikes are coming out of the woodwork, perhaps because of the growing popularity of Eroica-type rides. I have seen more without seat tube serial numbers, more monochrome bikes, and more with mixed component groups, as well as several with windowed lugs like mine. Given the lack of top tube cable guides, 126 OLD rear spacing, five speed FW, braze on downtube shifter mounts, and brazed on BB cable guide, am still thinking mid to late 70's, with a good chance the frame was made by Bianchi or a contracted builder.
After a lot of research, I'm thinking the Ofmega crank/BB/headset/hubs, Weinmann brakeset, and Campagnolo FD may be original to the bike, based on period correctness and what I was told by the original owner. The RD is a later Athena, first year production, so perhaps replaced when the original RD wore out in the late 80's. The rims don't match, but the Weinmann expert I consulted said that it would be hard to determine which one was original to the bike, and the OO is very elderly and just can't remember exact details of what was done to his bike 35 years ago.
I've kept the bike in climate controlled storage for the past three years and would like to either restore it (full teardown, bearing service, rubout and wax frame, new tires and tubes, replace cables and housing, obtain correct seatpost and saddle, match rims, etc.) or sell it off as a barn/basement find, which it really was. Regardless, I'll sell it one way or another since it's really too tall for me and I have several other Eroica style rides in my collection.
Would appreciate any info that the forum can provide, or any ideas regarding correct rims, etc. I do have a Pat 78 NR RD set aside for it, which is at least in the ballpark in terms or correct date period, as well as a set of 70's era Campy shifters, although I think the Simplex ones would also be correct.
Thanks to all.
After a lot of research, I'm thinking the Ofmega crank/BB/headset/hubs, Weinmann brakeset, and Campagnolo FD may be original to the bike, based on period correctness and what I was told by the original owner. The RD is a later Athena, first year production, so perhaps replaced when the original RD wore out in the late 80's. The rims don't match, but the Weinmann expert I consulted said that it would be hard to determine which one was original to the bike, and the OO is very elderly and just can't remember exact details of what was done to his bike 35 years ago.
I've kept the bike in climate controlled storage for the past three years and would like to either restore it (full teardown, bearing service, rubout and wax frame, new tires and tubes, replace cables and housing, obtain correct seatpost and saddle, match rims, etc.) or sell it off as a barn/basement find, which it really was. Regardless, I'll sell it one way or another since it's really too tall for me and I have several other Eroica style rides in my collection.
Would appreciate any info that the forum can provide, or any ideas regarding correct rims, etc. I do have a Pat 78 NR RD set aside for it, which is at least in the ballpark in terms or correct date period, as well as a set of 70's era Campy shifters, although I think the Simplex ones would also be correct.
Thanks to all.
#29
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Middle Earth (aka IA)
Posts: 20,435
Bikes: A bunch of old bikes and a few new ones
Mentioned: 178 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5888 Post(s)
Liked 3,471 Times
in
2,079 Posts
Hey! The Brown Man must have delivered it to the wrong address, Doc - That one's MY size!
I'm jealous! - Except for those '605 calipers, that is. They are utterly impossible to center without the tool, which BTW, is unobtanium.
You can't even whack the springs to center them because they're set in rubbbbubber!
I'm jealous! - Except for those '605 calipers, that is. They are utterly impossible to center without the tool, which BTW, is unobtanium.
You can't even whack the springs to center them because they're set in rubbbbubber!
Last edited by bikemig; 02-09-16 at 02:06 PM.
#30
aka: Dr. Cannondale
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 7,733
Mentioned: 234 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2155 Post(s)
Liked 3,404 Times
in
1,205 Posts
Juvela- No saddle or seatpost, but it requires a 27.2, so quality tubing. The pics are as received, and it looks the same today as it did 3 years ago. Really appreciate the Ofmega imformation. Was aware of the CPSC dating, further confirming my suspicions that it was made some time after 76.
Robbie, standover on this is maybe 33 inches. Notwithstanding Mrs. Tunes opinion of me should the height be too close to the Tunes Family Jewels and result in injury to same, if it's slightly too tall for me, it's way too tall for you.
Bikemig, also have a similar tool, as well as a complete set of Craftsman miniature carb wrenches from my mis-spent days playing with various Yamaha, Kawasaki, Suzuki and Bultaco motorcycles. They do come in handy!
Robbie, standover on this is maybe 33 inches. Notwithstanding Mrs. Tunes opinion of me should the height be too close to the Tunes Family Jewels and result in injury to same, if it's slightly too tall for me, it's way too tall for you.
Bikemig, also have a similar tool, as well as a complete set of Craftsman miniature carb wrenches from my mis-spent days playing with various Yamaha, Kawasaki, Suzuki and Bultaco motorcycles. They do come in handy!
__________________
Hard at work in the Secret Underground Laboratory...
Hard at work in the Secret Underground Laboratory...
Last edited by rccardr; 02-09-16 at 05:49 PM.
#31
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Alta California
Posts: 14,263
Mentioned: 415 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3811 Post(s)
Liked 3,337 Times
in
2,177 Posts
This is certainly an interesting bicycle.
If bb fittings are marked OFMEGA this would tend to confirm that chainset is original.
I hope you post an update when you make a decision as to how to proceed with it.
If bb fittings are marked OFMEGA this would tend to confirm that chainset is original.
I hope you post an update when you make a decision as to how to proceed with it.
#33
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Alta California
Posts: 14,263
Mentioned: 415 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3811 Post(s)
Liked 3,337 Times
in
2,177 Posts
"Oh lettuce not goeth thither!"
#34
aka: Dr. Cannondale
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 7,733
Mentioned: 234 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2155 Post(s)
Liked 3,404 Times
in
1,205 Posts
Robbie: already been contacted, although it would not be gentlemanly of me to name the female imdividual who reached out.
Regardless, thought it would be in everyone's best interest to politely turn this person down.
Regardless, thought it would be in everyone's best interest to politely turn this person down.
__________________
Hard at work in the Secret Underground Laboratory...
Hard at work in the Secret Underground Laboratory...
Last edited by rccardr; 02-09-16 at 09:55 PM.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
danmyersmn
Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
10
07-26-19 01:13 PM
kuso
Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
1
09-06-10 08:23 AM
JunkYardBike
Classic & Vintage
16
05-30-10 03:11 PM