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NOS Waterford-built 1984 Schwinn Paramount

Old 03-12-13, 07:55 AM
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Very nice bike!! It has all the signs on an 84 - chrome chainstay, cable guides on top of the BB, fork crown with a cutout. You are right, not a lot of these made.

I have an 84 Paramount in black with the rainbow decals and can add what I recall about mine. The serial number on mine is 560 and H8497. The frame and fork were $500 and I had the bike shop put on a Campy headset. I recall you could order the standard frame in a few colors or a custom one for a lot more. The rainbow decals are spectacular but they only used them for one year.

The 84 year was the first year of the 'standard' model and geometry and from 84 to later in the 80s, all of the standard Paramounts had the same geometry. My 56 is a 75 deg seat tube and 73 deg head tube. I could never get the steep seat tube to work well for me. I have attached the 84 spec page.

Mine is definitely designed for 700C wheels. In fact, the brake clearance on the back only takes a 700x25 tire - the 700x28 tires I have tried rub on the top.

My favorite bike these days is an 86 Peloton as it has a more relaxed geometry.

You have found a treasure, ride it and enjoy!
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Old 03-12-13, 08:20 AM
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One of my friends just sold his red 1984 Paramount on Ebay last weekend. Same Olympic decals, but with a ful NR groupo. Is one of you the buyer? If so, you are getting a great bike, it has even survived L'eroica and an adventure with Air France.
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Old 03-12-13, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by ParaWK4 View Post
Very nice bike...!!
Mine is definitely designed for 700C wheels. In fact, the brake clearance on the back only takes a 700x25 tire - the 700x28 tires I have tried rub on the top....

You have found a treasure, ride it and enjoy!
I'm currently running 700c X 28mm Vittoria tires on mine. They just barely fit, and I mean barely! In fact, I need to modify the cable bolt on the FD. When I shift onto the big chainring the Allen head rubs the tire at first. I then need to trim the FD shifter to keep it from rubbing. I know that even a 27" X 1" wheel/tire would not fit.

My guess is that since Mainstreetexile's Paramount has 27" wheels, it was a custom order. Maybe the original owner had several sets of nice 27" wheels in '84 and wanted them to work with his newest ride?

Mainstreetexile, so your Paramount is exactly one year newer than mine. The decals were used for about 18-20 months, so almost 2 years.
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I think I'm in love. Gorgeous bike!
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Congrats on a great score - a true survivor time capsule, preserved exceptionally well.
Thanks for posting pics! Enjoy the ride.
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Old 03-12-13, 11:45 AM
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wow, seems like it was built yesterday. And cost like one too.

Time to lube that chain!
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Old 03-13-13, 03:47 AM
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Amazing ... and the apocryphal barn story too? Those Wolber rims will be bullet proof ... and with '600' hubs and not Atoms/Normandy/Maillard or some other cheese lucky man!
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Gorgeous! a bit big for this little short-arse, but still gorgeous! Luck sod! Congrats!

I'm so jealous!!!

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Originally Posted by ParaWK4 View Post
Very nice bike!! It has all the signs on an 84 - chrome chainstay, cable guides on top of the BB, fork crown with a cutout. You are right, not a lot of these made.

I have an 84 Paramount in black with the rainbow decals and can add what I recall about mine. The serial number on mine is 560 and H8497. The frame and fork were $500 and I had the bike shop put on a Campy headset. I recall you could order the standard frame in a few colors or a custom one for a lot more. The rainbow decals are spectacular but they only used them for one year.

The 84 year was the first year of the 'standard' model and geometry and from 84 to later in the 80s, all of the standard Paramounts had the same geometry. My 56 is a 75 deg seat tube and 73 deg head tube. I could never get the steep seat tube to work well for me. I have attached the 84 spec page.

Mine is definitely designed for 700C wheels. In fact, the brake clearance on the back only takes a 700x25 tire - the 700x28 tires I have tried rub on the top.

My favorite bike these days is an 86 Peloton as it has a more relaxed geometry.

You have found a treasure, ride it and enjoy!
Thanks for posting that scan! I measured the chainstays and they were in line with the spec sheet, so I pulled a side picture of the bike into a photo editing program and tried to get a more accurate measurement of the frame angles, they also appear to be right around 74 and 73.


Originally Posted by pastorbobnlnh View Post
I'm currently running 700c X 28mm Vittoria tires on mine. They just barely fit, and I mean barely! In fact, I need to modify the cable bolt on the FD. When I shift onto the big chainring the Allen head rubs the tire at first. I then need to trim the FD shifter to keep it from rubbing. I know that even a 27" X 1" wheel/tire would not fit.

My guess is that since Mainstreetexile's Paramount has 27" wheels, it was a custom order. Maybe the original owner had several sets of nice 27" wheels in '84 and wanted them to work with his newest ride?

Mainstreetexile, so your Paramount is exactly one year newer than mine. The decals were used for about 18-20 months, so almost 2 years.
I had a 700c 6 speed wheelset here with 32mm Marathons mounted on it, so I tried the rear wheel to see how it fit. The 32mm tire barely snuck by the bottom of the rear brake, nowhere near enough clearance to make me feel safe riding it like that.

So, now what I'm thinking I have here is "just" a standard paramount road frame, built for 700c wheels, that the bike shop had built up with what parts they had on hand (the 600 group and the 27" wheelset, possibly the 27" wheelset by request). If you look closely, you can see that there are no dropout adjuster screws, so maybe the mechanic had removed them to get the 27" wheels all the way back in the dropouts to deal with clearance issues.

I have an extra 6 speed 700c wheelset or two around that I can use for the time being if I want to try it out with the appropriate wheel size. I may have overestimated the clearance with 27" tires, so I'll probably move to 700x28 at some point. I have a Sugino AT triple that I was considering putting on it at some point for longer and more mountainous rides, but I'm not too eager to make component changes yet. Probably not as much of a concern in this particular instance since they were sold as framesets and able to be built up with a variety of components however you please, but I'd still feel kind of guilty making changes right away to such a pristine example so I'll ride it as is for the time being.

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Amazing ... and the apocryphal barn story too? Those Wolber rims will be bullet proof ... and with '600' hubs and not Atoms/Normandy/Maillard or some other cheese lucky man!
The Wolber rims are very nice, but the hubs actually appear to be from outside the 600 group. They're just labeled "Schwinn" in the standard schwinn hub script so unfortunately they're probably Maillard or some other cheese.
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Old 03-14-13, 08:58 PM
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Just sick! nice
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What a sweet ride in perfect shape!
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Great find. Good looking bike.
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i saw this bike on CL early on. you can thank me for letting you have it it was somewhere i had to look up (south east SD) and figured by the time i got there it would be gone.
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Originally Posted by mainstreetexile View Post
The owner said his father had purchased this bike new and just put it in their barn without ever having ridden it.
That's kind sad.
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i saw this bike on CL early on. you can thank me for letting you have it it was somewhere i had to look up (south east SD) and figured by the time i got there it would be gone.
Thanks


Looking back at the saved ad and my email, It looks like it was posted at 11:40am and I emailed at 11:50am. Lucky to randomly check craigslist at the right time, since they said they had a bunch of other emails not long after.

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That's kind sad.
I'd like to think that he had a lot of other nice bikes that he rode more, and just never had enough time for these ones.
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omg I'm drooling.
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it's just a schwinn....


j/k nice find! i love scores like that.

By the way, who buys a bike and just lets it sit like that, WTH....


Also you're lucky that this barn find hasn't succumbed to bubbling paint, rust, and seizing like most of my barn finds. This must have been some barn...
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