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Old 03-19-13, 09:55 AM
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^ I would agree. It is personal preference, but I have used toe-clips/straps or clipless for decades. My soon to be commuter currently has platform pedals on it, without clips. I hate it, and feel rather uncomfortable not being clipped in or attached somehow.
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Originally Posted by djkashuba

MKS Urban Pedal by djk762, on Flickr

I have just started using these...have not toured on them yet. Super comfortable and more surface area than the Sylvans I have used. I have notice I can feel the Sylvan outline on thinner shoes. The Urbans are very much like Lyotard Berthets I use in giving lots of support. Easy in and out as well. I run 10 1/2 M.

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Those are MKS's copy of the Lyotard Berthets:



MKS also makes, or used to make, the GR9, which are similar. I've used them, and they're not bad. The urbans may be bigger:

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Does anyone here have a set of these? They look nice. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Sunt...item2a2a3369e9
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Originally Posted by Jackontheroad
I have a question about the clips, are these really needed? or you can tour without it?
I find I like to be free-footed if I'm going more than 20 miles or so at a stretch. When I can move my foot forward or backward, even a half inch or so, it makes a difference on how sore my feet get. Sometimes, I want the weight all on the ball of my foot, other times I want the arch to partially involved as well.
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Originally Posted by dveneman
Does anyone here have a set of these? They look nice. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Sunt...item2a2a3369e9
they are very nice. but unless you want vintage SunTour components for specific collectors' / aesthetic reason, you can get comparable modern pedals for half that price.
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Velo-orange.com has a nice selection of classic pedals with sealed bearings. They also carry the MKS pedals. I would opt for the VO Road Pedals with sealed bearings if not wanting to used cleated pedals, but they also have touring and city versions if you want the option of using without toe straps and cages.

https://store.velo-orange.com/index.p...ts/pedals.html

FWIW, I use Shimano SPD pedals with Sidi Dominator shoes for touring and bike commuting. I prefer to ride clipped-in with cleats and like SPDs because they are double-sided with a large enough platform for my purposes.

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Just pulled out of a shops parts bin, Suntour SP-155 Have to grease and try them out. My feet are average, I just like SR stuff.

Oh, one cap is missing, nothing but SR cap will fit Now who has one......
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I'm pretty much spds on most bikes, particularly the Shimano A530s--platform on one side and spd cleat on the other. I also have MKS touring pedals without cleats on around-town bikes. On my commuter I use the most, I've been running VP-001 Downhill/DH Mountain Bike Pedals in silver through the winter. Very pleased with those.
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Originally Posted by Saguaro
You are correct, clips are not necessary for touring or distance cycling (see edited post).

I experience a performance advantage using clips on my pedals, but it comes down to personal preference.

Another aspect that has been briefly touched on is the issue of aesthetics. The OP is asking for opinions on "Pedals for classic tourer" (specifically 1982). If you want to be period correct, you should use classic clipped pedals. That's what I used on my tours in the '80's, they were original equipment on my 1982 Nishiki, and I still use them today.
I know there are a lot of folks that say they have a performance gain with SPD or clipless pedals and I used to ride with SPDs. I have since quit using them for the following reasons:
  • I do not like being connected to the bike.
  • I did not think it offered *me* a performance advantage.
  • I did not like having to wear special shoes.
  • I did not like the high cost of the pedals.

For the riding I do, I find that a half clip is good enough for me.

One of the other things you mention is aesthetics. I like the looks of platform pedals and quill pedals, though I find quills dig into the bottom of my feet. To my eye, SPDs are unattractive. I'll take a pair of Phillips Philite #133 pedals or Chater Lea "tommy bar" pedals any day over any SPD I've seen to date.


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Originally Posted by dbakl



I really like the old Lyotard 2 sided platform pedals; you can find the on ebay. The Japanese copies are good too. Toe clips and straps keep your foot properly on the pedals. You don't have to tighten for touring, easy to get your foot out.

Here's a pair on ebay:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Lyot...item43b9c80b51
I have some Milremo pedals I bought NOS from an eBay seller in England that I put on my Hercules Kestrel which are very similar to those in your picture. I don't know for sure, but it appears to me as if they might actually be Lyotard or Atom pedals, but I don't know for sure. Nonetheless, they're nice pedals.


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Originally Posted by photogravity
I have some Milremo pedals I bought NOS from an eBay seller in England that I put on my Hercules Kestrel which are very similar to those in your picture.
Could be Lyotards, Milremo was the house brand at Ron Kitching, but certainly weren't made by them. Those have a steel cage, I go for the alloy myself.
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Originally Posted by photogravity
I know there are a lot of folks that say they have a performance gain with SPD or clipless pedals and I used to ride with SPDs. I have since quit using them for the following reasons:
  • I do not like being connected to the bike.
  • I did not think it offered *me* a performance advantage.
  • I did not like having to wear special shoes.
  • I did not like the high cost of the pedals.

For the riding I do, I find that a half clip is good enough for me.

One of the other things you mention is aesthetics. I like the looks of platform pedals and quill pedals, though I find quills dig into the bottom of my feet. To my eye, SPDs are unattractive. I'll take a pair of Phillips Philite #133 pedals or Chater Lea "tommy bar" pedals any day over any SPD I've seen to date.
I've never used SPD's or other clipless pedals so I don't know whether they offer a performance advantage or not (although a lot of people say they do). I agree, I think they are unattractive as well on some C&V bikes. However, if I was building up a fast 90's road bike, I'd definitely consider clipless SPD pedals.

I do know that I like the support I get using traditional clips and straps on long rides, especially with a pedal like the Specialized Touring because they do not have a quill and are smooth on top. I think the clips and straps keep my feet centered on the pedal and there's probably a little uplift going on and that translates to increased pedaling efficiency, at least for me.

BTW, that's a nice pedal collection you have.
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Hi All

Wow when I posted the question I had no idea I would get such an interesting response. There are a lot of great ideas here!!

The problem / issue I have is that the SP100 Quill pedals (Sakae Ringyo) I am currently using have a slight raised notch on one side which on a long ride actually gets pretty annoying. Maybe because I often cycle in thin soled sneakers.

They can be seen here: https://velobase.com/CompImages/Pedal...8F2772C88.jpeg

Obviously I can flip the pedal over but it's still a pain. I also am not crazy on how they look albeit they are period correct.

What do others think of these pedals and am I being too fussy?

thanks

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Hi All

Wow when I posted the question I had no idea I would get such an interesting response. There are a lot of great ideas here!!

The problem / issue I have is that the SP100 Quill pedals (Sakae Ringyo) I am currently using have a slight raised notch on one side which on a long ride actually gets pretty annoying. Maybe because I often cycle in thin soled sneakers.

They can be seen here: https://velobase.com/CompImages/Pedal...8F2772C88.jpeg

Obviously I can flip the pedal over but it's still a pain. I also am not crazy on how they look albeit they are period correct.

What do others think of these pedals and am I being too fussy?

thanks

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No, you are not being too fussy. I have wide feet and I hate those points on the ends of road pedals. I've been happy with the MKS touring pedals, good and cheap. I want to buy some of the more solid topped ones next, like the Urban or some of Velo Orange's.
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Originally Posted by dveneman
Oh great! I want these now. Another thing to search for on Ebay.
I do really like the look of these too.... My only issue is if you don't use these with toe clips I have the same annoying issue as with my SP-100s which is that annoying raised notch on one side of the pedal. But great looking pedals..!
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Originally Posted by photogravity
I have some Milremo pedals I bought NOS from an eBay seller in England ...................they're nice pedals.

Yes they are! I grabbed a pair a few years back and love em. I've put serious miles on them, lube them on occassion and they are still smooth and tight and look nice too!

MKS Tour is a close second ( IMO) if your looking for a vintage type pedal
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Originally Posted by Catnap
clip-in pedals guarantee optimal foot position at all times, making the pedaling easier as well as reducing stress on your knees and ankles from improper form. it's easier to spin fast RPM's when clipped in, which is good for long climbs on a loaded bike.

clip-in pedals are by no means a requirement, and everyone has their own preferences. but in my opinion, they are the best upgrade i ever made to a bike, bar none. no other accessory or component has improved my riding experience as much as them.
hmm i don't agree that having your foot locked into one spot reduces stress on your knees. I kind of like to move my foot around depending on how i feel, what the terrain is and if i want to stretch out a little bit more. It probably doesn't make too much of difference, but i think just being on a regular old platform and being able to scooch around helps.
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also i might add.. trying to clip in or slip in on a fully loaded bike on a steep grade from a full stop can be incredibly difficult.
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Originally Posted by Howard
Consider the SP 11?


Not mine, but here's a flickr photo:


New pedals. by David R Munson, on Flickr


I have an older set on a Miyata ... They are worn (the aluminum crosschecking is visibly less than it was originally), but they are easy to rebuild & repack, and appear to be made of pretty decent parts. Am using half clips. Works with "cycling" shoes (some spd mtb shoes with no cleats) and Top-siders pretty well.
Those are my pedals, actually (as in that's my photo, but I don't mind! ), and I still ride them. Best non-clipless pedals I've ever had, especially when paired with Toshi doubles. Secure, comfortable, never let me down. And as noted, easy to service.
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I picked up a set of new Sunlite pedals from the LBS. I use them with toe cages and straps. I probably could do half-clips because I rarely tighten the straps.

I'd like to get a set of old Deore XT or Suntour XC Pro pedals- I like that look.
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