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martl 03-22-13 04:46 AM


Originally Posted by mainstreetexile (Post 15410297)
Here's the park page on handlebar wrapping:

http://www.parktool.com/blog/repair-...ation-drop-bar

One of the lesse recommendable how-tos, to be honest. An apprentice in a good bike shop would get smacked if he delivered a crappy job like this:

Even spacing anyone?

http://www.parktool.com/uploads/imag...help/bar47.jpg

qcpmsame 03-22-13 05:39 AM


Originally Posted by RobbieTunes (Post 15414337)
+1 on the poor finishing tapes. Even the ones that go on well can betray you later.
Lizardskin, which is my favorite wrap to use and apply, has the best and only sensible finishing tapes I've seen. It's just thinner Lizardskin.

Roger that Top, I just switched to Lizardskin tape for my CAAD, the strips surprized me when I opened the package. But I used them as the fillers on the brifter bodies and then matching orange 3M 33 electrical tape at the top finish, 2 wraps. The nicely made thin strips filled in without too much bulk underneath the wrap at the brifter and there is no ugly gap on either side of the brifter body. The 33 electrician's tape is a perfect match for the Lizardskin's orange shade. It took a few minutes to get comfortable with the soft feel of the 'Skin wrap, now I like it very well.

I am using bottom up on my modern bike but my older bikes were always Tressostar white cloth tape wrapped top down and tucked in at the end plugs or bar end shifter mechanisms. When I settle on a C&V frame to build up period correct for the mid to late 70s, soon, it will have the white cloth tape I like so well.

Semper Fi,
Bill

noglider 03-22-13 06:39 AM


Originally Posted by gaucho777 (Post 15410813)
For Benotto tape and, I like to finish with heat and/or super glue for a clean look.

This is what I do with plastic tape also. I learned that matches make more heat than a butane lighter does and it's necessary to use a match. I heat it at the bottom so the seam is not obvious.

Grand Bois 03-22-13 08:07 AM

I have an attachment for my soldering iron for welding seams in plastic that does a beautiful job. Too bad I'm a top down wrapper.

FrenchFit 03-22-13 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by eschlwc (Post 15411238)
i couldn't disagree more with the park instructions. i start from the end and wrap from inside out, so hand pressure is always applying tightening pressure. once you arrive at the lever, you wrap from outside, over the bar, then under and around the outside of the lever and back under, making the 'figure 8.' this puts you in position to continue on the top, wrapping from in to out toward the stem clamp.

i always apply two pieces of electical tape (one atop the other) to complete the wrap, but i cut the width of the black e-tape in half, 'cause a thin finish looks more elegant.

That is effing crazy, I agree. The two things you want to accomplish is not to have ridges towards the inside and wrap the tape so it's self tightening with hand pressure. Park manages to do the opposite.

As far as the finish, I use a spot of superglue on a cut-tapered end, under a Quick Grip for 2 minutes..done. No need for tape.

eschlwc 03-22-13 09:37 AM

^ this thread could use a few pics of the different finishing techniques.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7050/6...42fe2ce82a.jpg

mine's straightforward and maybe a little boring: cut the e-tape width in half, use two pieces each side, and try to match the last turn of bar tape to mirror each other.

dbakl 03-22-13 10:49 AM

Top to bottom or bottom to top, depending on tape, inside to outside over the top for wrapping.

auchencrow 03-22-13 11:05 AM


Originally Posted by eschlwc (Post 15418308)
^ this thread could use a few pics of the different finishing techniques.....


Though I'm a top-down guy, I've taken to doing the twine thing on some of my bikes. - It's strictly decorative.
(I wrap the twine over a small patch of hockey-tape so it stays put.)


http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/h...M-second22.jpg

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/h...dM-second8.jpg

eschlwc 03-22-13 11:18 AM

^ now that's a long stem.

did you paint the twine gold? looks good. i used shellac on twine once, but it looked gnarly. i always like rootboy's finishing with satiny thread.

auchencrow 03-22-13 11:23 AM


Originally Posted by eschlwc (Post 15418759)
^ now that's a long stem.

..

I needed to stretch the bike a little. (It's a small frame).


Originally Posted by eschlwc (Post 15418759)
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did you paint the twine gold? looks good. i used shellac on twine once, but it looked gnarly. i always like rootboy's finishing with satiny thread.

It's yellow-colored nylon twine I bought in a ball from Lowes. Indestructible. They had red and blue as well IIRC.

southpawboston 03-22-13 12:07 PM

Here's bottom-up, cotton, with matching red electrical tape finishing:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7166/6...1db55826_b.jpg

Top-down, cotton, with no finishing:

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4045/4...36df8b88_b.jpg

Bottom-up, white cork with amber shallac, and Grant-Petersen inspired twine and shellac. I actually cringe now when I look at this. The bars now have white Fizik tape, no twine, no shellac. Thankfully.

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4028/4...72d18d66_b.jpg

dbakl 03-22-13 03:22 PM


Originally Posted by southpawboston (Post 15418959)
Bottom-up, white cork with amber shallac, and Grant-Petersen inspired twine and shellac. I actually cringe now when I look at this. The bars now have white Fizik tape, no twine, no shellac. Thankfully.

Yeah, I don't know where that twine idea came from but Rivendell. Never saw it in my life in the 60s or 70s.

eschlwc 03-22-13 03:42 PM

i have a feeling many of us go through the shellac and twine phase and then rediscover (or are saved by) the basics of well planned classic styling again.

noglider 03-22-13 04:27 PM


Originally Posted by eschlwc (Post 15419822)
i have a feeling many of us go through the shellac and twine phase and then rediscover (or are saved by) the basics of well planned classic styling again.

I think you just saved me the trouble of trying. I was meaning to, but ...

jimmuller 03-22-13 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by eschlwc (Post 15417334)

Originally Posted by jimmuller (Post 15417077)
Never had bar tape come loose. I've had it wear to the point of becoming tattered. That means it's time to do it again. A few thousand miles maybe.

that far, huh? i retape mine after each ride.

Sorry, I didn't make myself clear. Every ride is a few thousand miles, so I too have to re-tape after every ride. :D

seeker333 03-23-13 08:41 AM

Start at bar end, wrap outwards, reverse direction at lever:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fs7BY4wKHTM

eschlwc 03-23-13 01:52 PM

^ if you do a figure 8 at the lever, you can avoid using those two little pieces of wrap that come with many new packages (as shown in the video above), you support the clamp placement even more, and you avoid changing directions on the top bar. here's how:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E12YaX_tuGw&sns=em

the trick to covering all the bar near the lever is to refrain from starting the figure 8 until you've wrapped the drop as high as possible to the base of the lever clamp. but now ... what to do with those two little pieces left over?

and jim ... i wouldn't doubt your ride mileage for anything...


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