Concorde info
Tried finding info on google, not too much. A while ago i read that these frames were made by Ciocc and other italian makers? supposedly they were based in the neitherlands. Any more info would be great. Or if you can confirm any of the info i just gave you.
why has this peaked my interest? i've dealt with concorde's here and there, recently i aquired an NOS one. Pics or it didn't happen right? http://torontovintagebikes.com/wp-co...2-1024x682.jpg http://torontovintagebikes.com/wp-co...4-1024x682.jpg http://torontovintagebikes.com/wp-co...5-1024x682.jpg http://torontovintagebikes.com/wp-co...0-1024x682.jpg http://torontovintagebikes.com/wp-co...9-1024x682.jpg http://torontovintagebikes.com/wp-co...8-1024x682.jpg http://torontovintagebikes.com/wp-co...1-1024x682.jpg http://torontovintagebikes.com/wp-co...es_cropped.jpg |
Very nice frame mapleleafs-13! It is indeed a Dutch brand made in Italy, I also heared made by Ciöcc. Like Koga-Miyata, some smart guys from 'the Neitherlands' (;)) hooked up with foreign quality framebuilders to make an interesting brand and with smart marketing - pro team sponsorship - they sold a sh*tload of bikes. Both high-end as mid-range, no low-end I believe. Yours is pretty high-end with the SLX tubing (or does it say TSX?), Cinelli BB and all the panto going on, though I thought the top model was called the Aquila. But brand naming could be different in Canada. Anyway a great score!
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Very nice, I always thought that Concorde frames looked nice. In 1990 I almost bought one, but Concorde did not make my size.
As Zieleman wrote, Concorde did not make low end frames. |
Back in the early 1990s, the TSX model was called the Squadra in Canada, at least until the Genius tubeset came out and inherited the name. I'm fairly sure the model is newer than the early 1990s based on the paint. Personally, I'd be checking with the staff at Racer Sportif. They were a big Concorde dealer (and I believe the Canadian importer) during the 1980s and 1990s.
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That's a nice find, the paint is really beautiful.
Since we are discussing the brand, I had a Concorde that had an "Assembled in Canada" sticker on it, does anyone know what the heck that means? It was a Colombo model and was made from Columbus Cromor but I don't know much more than that as I sold it awhile ago. |
Originally Posted by jet sanchEz
(Post 15472974)
That's a nice find, the paint is really beautiful.
Since we are discussing the brand, I had a Concorde that had an "Assembled in Canada" sticker on it, does anyone know what the heck that means? It was a Colombo model and was made from Columbus Cromor but I don't know much more than that as I sold it awhile ago. |
Originally Posted by Zieleman
(Post 15472399)
Yours is pretty high-end with the SLX tubing (or does it say TSX?)
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Originally Posted by Zieleman
(Post 15472399)
It is indeed a Dutch brand made in Italy, I also heared made by Ciöcc. Like Koga-Miyata, some smart guys from 'the Neitherlands' (;)) hooked up with foreign quality framebuilders to make an interesting brand and with smart marketing - pro team sponsorship - they sold a sh*tload of bikes. Both high-end as mid-range, no low-end I
",,,the triumvirate was Veltec of Belguim, Weltmeister of Holland, and Jose Alvarez, the Naploeon of the French lightweeight industry from Auch near the Pyrenees. The first two went ahead with the venture and formed CONCORDE," Because Alvarez dropped out of the venture, it can be said to be a Benelux concern. The manufacturer in Italy is a bit mysterious: early models of Columbus-tubed frames were said to have been made in the same factory as then built Ciocc, Conti and John frames (remember that video that shows the operation, with awful "pop-classical" soundtrack? that's the place) which would have been the after Pelizzoli sold off the Ciocc name and was no longer involved. Later models have been "positively" IDed as having been built by the Bonati Brothers operation, who also were making Ciocc frames at that time (and many other brands). One story is that the frames were shipped to Holland or Belgium in primer to be painted and assembled there, so they can be claimed to be "Made in Benelux", but in my book those frames are Italian-made. Similar practices were established by Ten Speed Drive and Lewis Imports in the USA (lower Customs/Duty fees). I'm partial to this brand and congrats on a great addition to your stable! But Concorde did sell some bikes that could be considered "lower-end" (Voyager model, Tange #5 frame with Shimano 400) but we never saw them in NorthAm, they were just for the Benelux market. |
They also had some lugged aluminum bikes that were manufactured by Bridgestone.
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Seems like a lot of Concorde bicycles are popping up these days, the OP's being the nicest of the bunch. I picked up an eighties something made in Italy Concorde Columbo cross bike frame set just a couple of weeks ago. The frame might be a bit small, but I intend to build it up and give-er-a-go anyway. I should add that my Concorde can't hold a candle to the OP's...
http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...8&d=1363464853 |
Originally Posted by Zieleman
(Post 15472399)
Very nice frame mapleleafs-13! It is indeed a Dutch brand made in Italy, I also heared made by Ciöcc. Like Koga-Miyata, some smart guys from 'the Neitherlands' (;)) hooked up with foreign quality framebuilders to make an interesting brand and with smart marketing - pro team sponsorship - they sold a sh*tload of bikes. Both high-end as mid-range, no low-end I believe. Yours is pretty high-end with the SLX tubing (or does it say TSX?), Cinelli BB and all the panto going on, though I thought the top model was called the Aquila. But brand naming could be different in Canada. Anyway a great score!
They do sound like some smart people ;) |
Originally Posted by nordicsea
(Post 18889536)
Do you have any more information on how they marketed their brand?
They do sound like some smart people ;) The PDM team Sean Kelly, Lemond, Pedersen, Alcala, Bishop, Rooks, Delgado, etc PDM - Concorde PDM - GIN MG - Ultima - Concorde PDM - Ultima - Concorde PDM - Ultima - Concorde http://www.cycloretro.com/#!sean-kel...4iq/image_1uj5 https://sicycle.wordpress.com/2016/0...last-25-years/ Famous riders are good marketing. One thing to take into account - though - maketing is one thing - what they actually rode and who built their frames might be a totally other thing than what the decals say. |
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